Featured Some cool gold stickpins! Help in dating them? What flower is this?

Bought these over the last two weeks. The 14k amethyst is a Sansbury & Nellis piece marked S-N 14k. Amazing little stickpin! I believe it to be 1920s but could be earlier. The 2nd flower stickpin is interesting. The flower part is marked sterling but the stick that was put on it is 14k. Tested electronically and acid. Never seen a gold stick put on a sterling head, cool! The person whom sold it said it was Victorian but I believe it to be Art Noveau. What kind of flower is it? Poppy?

 

Is the "pad" on the silver pin also gold? Looks like it was a repair piece and the jeweler used a scrap piece of square wire,I don't think I have ever seen square stock used for the pin.

 

Does look like a poppy to me. But the folks who knew nasturtiums when they saw them may have a better idea.

 

it's a poppy. Probably/possibly linked to poppy day and remembrance.

 

Thanks! As for the pad part Holly it is gold as well, it isn't just wire, it's an actual stick pin piece with the twirl in the middle if that makes sense... Probably a piece they had on hand and put the poppy on it. Either way it's a cool unique piece for the collection!

 

Anemone maybe?

 

Definitely could be. I considered anemone for the flowers that were nasturtiums, didn't think of them for this one.

 

Think a poppy as such a a popular art nouveau motif.

Debora

 

Categorically not anemone. Common poppy: Flanders Field and all that.

 

The Victorians would have used silver if they wanted a white metal. Platinum is harder to work and didn't become more commonly used until after that stick looks like it was made. White gold either.

 

Platinum is not hard to work with.

 

It's harder than gold or silver, although not as brittle as palladium and some of the others.

 

Kind of nonsense,platinum has the same working properties as 22K gold,though there are a couple platinum alloy which are a bit harder.

Vickers hardness numbers.

Rhodium (plating) 800 HV
14k White Gold 165 HV
18k White Gold 155 HV
18k Yellow Gold 155 HV
14k Yellow Gold 140 HV
14k Rose Gold 125 HV
Palladium 125 HV
Platinum 125 HV
Sterling Silver 75 HV

 

Victorian jewellery really didn't use platinum. I agree: silver.

 

I seem to remember they only started to use platinum in jewellery ca 1910, so after the Victorian era.

 

Not sure why platinum was even mentioned,the flower was tested as being silver in the first post.

 

Yea, the flower is marked sterling but its half covered by the stick.

 

the amethyst is a delight....