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  1. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    hi, can anybody help with these hand painted tea set pieces, 6 cups/saucers with taurine or jar thingy, marked 3011 on each piece

    thanks

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  2. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    jar thingy is probably a sugar bowl.

    Mid to late 1800s.
    I going to guess at Germany.
     
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  3. Bdigger

    Bdigger Well-Known Member

    Could this be gaudy welsh??
     
  4. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Gaudy Welsh or Gaudy Dutch are done in the Imari palette. Cobalt blue, burnt orange/brick red, green and sometimes yellow. Gaudy Welsh has gold added, Gaudy Dutch has no gold. Made in England of ironstone ceramic.

    The OP's is done in more of a pastel palette, and I don't think it is English. Also looks to be more porcelain than ironstone.
     
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  5. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    Just an observation, and may not help, on the sugar bowl, the handles seem to bird heads, maybe? Or seahorse?
     
  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I agree with cluttered. Interesting stuff: some of that painting is almost spongeware. My first thought was Austrian or German.
     
  7. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    thanks for the info guys, germany was my 1st impressions as well

    what kind of flowers ?, might help with maker

    the sugar bowl is 7" by 6" , would that make it more likely a caddy
     
  8. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    i do like the name Gaudy Welsh though, never heard of it before !!
     
  9. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Yes, what are the sugar bowl handles?
     
  10. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    hi, yeah they are not depicting anything, just fancy shapes
     
  11. Bdigger

    Bdigger Well-Known Member

    The flowers look like pansies and tulips to me.
     
  12. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Yes with little Forget-Me-Nots? sprinkled in between.
     
  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Too many petals and wrong leaves for the viola/pansy family. Not tulips either. They're native Europeans, back when my brain wakes up.
     
  14. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    Hibiscus, maybe (instead of pansy)?
     
  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Nope, totally wrong leaves again. It's a wee creeping thing. One of the wood violet family.
     
  16. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    My first thought was Johnny Jump Ups - but they are part of the same family as the pansy.

    Remember - China painters take a lot of license with floral decoration. Some are very accurate, but many just paint a flower to suggest what it might be, with out accuracy.
     
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