Help please! Can't find much info on these glasses

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  1. Alma Rose

    Alma Rose Member

    20210116_162903.jpg hello!

    Please can someone point me in the right direction regarding some glasses I've just bought. I have looked on Google and all I can find are flip glass examples (I have a couple of original beakers with rough pontils). However these are a champagne type, and have a crystal ring to them. Pontils are domed and not rough. I've looked at Stiegel glass sites but i think these are too modern. I have a set of 6. Thanks so much
     
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  2. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Look like they have a folded foot and with that engraving I'm going to say could be Murano, although I would expect Murano pieces to have rough cut pontils ..so IDK!
     
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  3. Alma Rose

    Alma Rose Member

    thank you! They just feel too modern. I bought a collection of this type of glass and some of it included thicker "flip" beakers with rough pontils that are most likely 19th century or older, but these are an enigma. Perhaps copies of old style?
     
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  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Odd. I don't thnk made on Murano, given they're soda glass. Engraving looks almost Bohemian or perhaps Scandi.
     
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  5. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

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  6. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    I thought soda glass with bubbles and that type of shallow etching was Mexican?
     
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  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Soda glass was made by many companies. Biot, for example.
     
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  8. ritzyvintage

    ritzyvintage Well-Known Member

    I agree the glass is soda-lime. The bubbles were created by adding powdered chalk to the molten glass to create a sporadic distribution of bubbles of different sizes rather than being controlled & uniform in shape... OR, used glass bottles were used/melted down and the bubbles were caused by impurities. The glass foot appears to have been lathe-turned, rather than spun-out by hand. As for the name of engraver or sandblaster, it could be anybody and not necessarily an artist from the glass producing factory. The guy sitting & wearing a hat, looks to me as being sat upon a Chinese Junk/boat, which may also indicate its country of origin, perhaps?

    Given the brittle nature of soda glass, together with the bubbles upon/within the top-edge rim of the cocktail/martini glass, and the wall-thickness, there will come a point in its history when splinters/flea-bites will occur.
     
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  9. Alma Rose

    Alma Rose Member

    The bubbles go to the rim surface. It's weird when you look at them because bubbles break at the top and there are little "dips" In the rim and the foot . The ship is dutch and there are Stiegel glass equivalents that look the same. I think either USA or European. It's the date I'm not sure about.
     
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  10. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Let's see the underside of the foot
     
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  11. Alma Rose

    Alma Rose Member

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    Please see attached images of the foot. It's very slightly domed but so hard to show. No rough pontils or T marks which is why I think they must be modern. They are very good quality and have a lovely ring to them unlike the genuine beakers I have that do have pontil scars. I have attached 2 images (last 2) of beaker and base for reference.

    Thanks
     
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  12. Alma Rose

    Alma Rose Member

    Just a quick update. I have watched a few videos and I think they might be late 1890s / turn of the century! There was a good description of the type of pontil they have and this puts them to around this date. They are lovely glasses whatever! Now deciding whether to keep or sell!!​
     
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  13. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Not seeing a folded foot after all.
     
  14. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    I believe your second foot image shows a ground and polished pontil under 2 cm wide in the center.
     
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