Chair

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by Cassy, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. Cassy

    Cassy Well-Known Member

    5FA2E167-591E-4E0E-A10A-185A7F654E91.jpeg hi
    I have been told this is a Windsor chair , could anyone help confirm this and age please , cheers
     
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  2. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Stickback Double Bow Windsor
     
  3. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    It is a Windsor style, but English style not American style and all finish stripped off. I don't have much experience with English windsors but doesn't look very old (20th century), though it does have a solid plank seat which is good. You'll need more pics to get more info.
     
  4. Cassy

    Cassy Well-Known Member

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    Hope this helps cheers 76DF5119-5A85-4F53-91D7-52D757AB568B.jpeg
     
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  5. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Well, as I said I don't have much experience with English Windsors, though I do have a lot of experience with American Windsors. It has features that would make it definitely not period correct for an American chair, but those are not shared with period English chairs, and I think those later pics do make it look likely to be period correct and authentic early 19th century (1820 or so) rather than 20th century which I said before. Final close ups of the base, feet and hand-holds would be useful. Its hard with chairs that have been so thoroughly stripped of finish since a lot of indications of wear are removed in the process, but there should still be signs in closeups.
     
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  6. Cassy

    Cassy Well-Known Member

    Sorry I’m fairly new to antiques what type of wood would you say it is please cheers
     
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  7. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Again, I don't run into many English windsors here in Boston. If you live in UK you should check locally. Or maybe someone else here knows. If you look online you'll see ash and elm, so that is a possibility. Also, don't take early 19th as gospel, that is based on similar online and could be later than that. Once a style becomes popular it continues to be made for some time outside urban centers - I suspect same is true in England.
     
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  8. pewter2

    pewter2 Well-Known Member

     
  9. pewter2

    pewter2 Well-Known Member

    hello cassie....what you have is an english 19th century windsor chair in oak and elm(seat) with spindle back and has a crinoline stretcher.with dowelled back and pierced double splat and could date from 1840 onwards. it appears to have been stripped of any original patina....try a good hard wax.....regards ...pewter2
     
  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Some fool dunked a nice period High Wycombe (probably) made chair from the 19th C in acid. I hate it when that happens. Pure beeswax, then sit on it, stroke it and appreciate it for a decade or so and it will be lovely again.
     
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  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    In its lifetime its probably had several coats of paint of differing colours, that is why its been stripped.
     
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  12. pewter2

    pewter2 Well-Known Member

    spot on öwned by bear"...shame ..possibly devalued a trifle...lots of hard work to bring patina up to scratch....regards pewter2
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    davey, quite possibe - why do people DO that! ;)
     
  14. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    What......Paint em or Strip em.:D

    A lot of these single chairs were put into bedrooms in the 40`s 50`s & 60`s and then painted to match the decor.
    In the 80`s and 90`s people bought them from antique shops and dealers and they wanted them to look like the original wood.
    They were again put into bedrooms.

    Normal paint stripper like Nitromors did not do a very good job so folks took them to the hot Caustic Soda stripper guy, the ones who stripped the Pine painted doors and blanket boxes.
    Now folks are painting them again in the name of Shabby Chic.
     
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  15. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Well, windsor chairs, whether english or american were made with several species of wood so were always painted from the get go. Painted furniture forms suffer value wise when their original paint decoration is removed.
    Why do people do that?
    Because styles change, owners of the furniture change and, this windsor chair decoration changed to! Still, a nice chair even though not 18th century, i like the crinoline stretcher. I agree with others above, wax it and enjoy!
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    They weren't painted here, James.
     
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  17. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Neat! I didn't know that. In America they were almost always painted in the 18th century, either green or black to mask the different wood species used in their construction.
     
  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    A lot of them here were used outdoors, so the feet are rotted off to some extent. The OP's poor chair looks like someone skinned it, but at least didn't leave it in the garden to rot.
     
  19. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Or, you could always paint it again, obviously it got painted at some point along the way. Windsors didn't appear in america until about 1730 or so but they were and still remain a smash hit, i can see why, very comfy chairs.
     
  20. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    What's the deal on the term "windsor" chair? It's my understanding these chairs were developed in the english countryside (unknown exactly where) early in the 18th century and got their name from the town of Windsor which exported them to London?
    That "crinoline" stretcher which is never seen on american chairs was originally called a "spur" stretcher? Curved to allow horseback riders to sit with their spurs on and not get tangled up with a straight front stretcher?
     
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