Featured Is this fur on this vintage coat? If so, what type?

I know the collar is fur (mink maybe?), but what about the rest of it? I can't tell if it's real fur or something man made. There is an open area that needs repair, and I can see the backing all the way through is gray leather, but whether it has been glued onto it, or is the real backing of real fur, I don't know? Any ideas? I tried to research this a few weeks ago, but was unable to figure anything out.
I have to leave for work soon, so will be unable to answer any questions for a while, so please forgive me if I don't respond right away.
As always, thanks for your time!
I miss you all, I see lots of new members, that's wonderful!

 

The curly fur is Astrakhan.

 

"Penn Traffic left the department-store business in 1982, when it sold its six department stores and two women's specialty-store leases to Crown America Corp., owners of Hess Department Stores . . . ."

In the USA, the "curly" fur on that coat was/is known (and marketed) as "Persian lamb."

 

1950s from the look of it.

Debora

 

Another vote for "Persian" lamb.

 

Astrakhan -"the dark curly fleece of young karakul lambs from central Asia."

 

Astrakhan is commonly called Persian lamb. Astrakhan is the correct name.
Like many parts of Western and Central Asia, the region of Astrakhan was once culturally Persian. Like Persia/Iran it borders on the Caspian Sea.

 

AJ I'm not being rude.
Astrakhan might be the correct name, but since it will be sold from the US probably to a US market, it should probably be marketed as Persian Lamb. That's what we know it as.

I am so glad we have so many different cultures on this board. We are constantly being introduced to things not known before.

 

And real fur. Fakes were not very sophisticated then. Also, you didn't get your initials sewn in to fake fur; it was routine with real pieces.

 

i remember dad had a hat like that.......

 

My grandmother had a coat like that in black if I remember right.

 

I had a long one in black, but with wavy fur, not curly. I didn't like the thought of lambs being aborted just for their curly fur. The wavy fur is from older lambs.

 

Initials embroidered inside - so it is real, and yes, was known as Persian lamb in New England.
@komokwa - my dad had a black hat, too.

 

Back in my teens, I wore an old, full length black mink coat that had belonged to a great aunt. (Her husband had been a furrier in NYC.) Wearing a mink over jeans somehow seemed ironic at the time. (Ah, youth...) Here's a picture of me wearing that coat, doing some photography on a winter beach. Sand on your mink? Eh...


Later, I was given another black mink "of my own" - with my initials inside, et al. I never wore it. Then my late MIL left me a Perisan lamb coat with a mink collar. I never wore that one, either.

Fur has long been a "hot topic" - no pun intended, and I do not judge those who do or don't wear it.

For those who don't like the idea of wearing fur, I wanted to mention that there are charities that accept fur items and cut them up as beds for ailing animals. (The Humane Society is one, but there are others.) In the US, there have traditionally been tax deductions offered for such donations.

That's where all of my fur items have gone, and I like to think they've kept some poor creature comfy.

 

To be precise about it, the initials are embroidered individually on little pre-made patches & then the patches are sewn into the lining this way.

 

Hi,
My aunt's mink coat had her name in full embroidered in the lining, no little squares. My fur coat from the 1970s had the intialied squares. I loved that coat.
Leather so soft it was like silk and the coyote collar was so soft. I finally gave it away when it became two sizes too small.
greg

 

Greg, my coat had my monogram embroidered directly onto the lining, as well - no patches or squares.

 

In the 70s many kids here wore fur coats over jeans. I did.

When I went to New York ca 1980, people came up to me in the street asking me what fur my coat was. Some just pulled at my sleeve saying "what fur". When I said Persian lamb, they didn't know what it was. I thought it was the proper name in English. We call it Persianer, by the way. An American friend of mine said, no it is Swakara, which I understood to be the name used for Astrakhan sheep bred in North Africa. No one had an idea what either of us meant.
Later a furrier told me I should have said Astrakhan, because that is the proper name. I know that worked when I said it in the UK around the same time.

Just a thought, if ty wants to sell the coat online, could she use the word 'Persian'? Surely that would be asking for problems.

 

There's some Astrakhan for ya !!!!

 

Is that Telly Savalas or just a citizen of Astrakhan who looks like Telly Savalas?