Cleaning silver

Discussion in 'Silver' started by say_it_slowly, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I have this Japanese silver case marked Sterling 950 (so a bit above sterling) that has toned areas. It needs cleaning but I'm wondering if using a silver polish such as Twinkle will be too aggressive and will remove the toned areas. Not actually sure what the toned areas are. Thanks for thoughts!
    japanese sterling case.jpg japanese sterling case 2.jpg
     
  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I didn't know "Twinkle" made silver polish, only copper cleaner. And the copper cleaner works much more aggressively on the copper than most silver polishes work on sterling.

    Personally, I prefer either Wright's Silver Crème or Hegarty's (although just about any cream polish should be okay.)

    Hard to say what that "toned area" is made of. Many polishes will remove gilt unless it's really thickly laid on. I would use a cream polish very sparingly, maybe even using Qtips, to make sure not to disturb the non-silver areas.
     
    spirit-of-shiloh likes this.
  3. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    The *toned* areas may be gold.
    Of course, they could also be another, gold-colored metal, but they often were gold.
    I wouldn't use Sparkle I don't think.
    Perhaps Sunshine cloth or, if you don't have one handy, just a good buffing with an old, soft T-shirt.
     
    User 67 likes this.
  4. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    Darn! Bakersgma beat me to it! LOL
     
  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    You're back!! :)
     
  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I've got a rouge cloth and just a simple silver cloth. I could try those first. I actually went online awhile back and someone had done a comparison of abrasive qualities of silver cleaners. Twinkle rated less abrasive than some others so I've been giving it a try. Of course like with all things online it sometimes depends on who wants to sell what I guess. I think this might have been the site.
    http://www.hermansilver.com/silver-polish-abrasion-ratings.htm

    twinkle.jpg
     
    serafino likes this.
  7. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    A good non abrasive silver cleaner is household ammonia on a Q-Tip.
    I`ve used it for years to clean silver coins and medals that should not be cleaned with polish.
    I`ve also had scrap silver coins that are dirty soak over night in a sealed jar of ammonia and the results are amazing.
     
    serafino and User 67 like this.
  8. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Yeah, I agree with the above. Don't use Twinkle. It's not as bad as Brasso, but it will take off more than you want.
     
  9. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    Davey...thanks for that tip.
    Done any detecting lately?
    Sounds like a great tip for detected silver coins.
     
  10. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I'll give the ammonia a try on some old coins and see if I can do that without making a mess of it.
     
  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    No I have not been detecting for some time, apart from this site and selling on eBay, I have been involved in helping my son with his business.
    For me its now time to relax for 2 weeks while I watch the FIFA World Cup games everyday from Brazil.
    Just necked a few cool ones in the garden whilst watching the first game :singing:
     
  12. User 67

    User 67 Active Member

    All silver polishing is abrasive in some way. That's the whole point, you abrade the oxidization to remove it. There is an electrochemical process, where they use an electric charge in ammonia, that actually may even reverse a bit of oxidization while removing the rest. When using ammonia and q-tips, the ammonia will chemically lift the oxidization (more so than just plain water) but it is the cotton that is actually doing the aberration.

    My first attempt would not be a polishing cloth. I'd try Purell and a cotton ball, checking the color of the piece not the cotton ball.

    Herman Silver has a great tutorial and advise.

    In the 19th century the gold would be inlay, this is likely a gold (or electrum) wash, and as gold is soft it would be easy to polish it off the surface.


    .
     
    FlyingButtonRanch likes this.
  13. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I`ve just done a quick experiment to show an example of a cleaned piece of sterling after using ammonia on a cotton bud or Q-Tip.
    This is a scrap 925 British coin with dirt and tarnish / toning.

    #1 Uncleaned.

    003-horz.jpg

    #2 Half Cleaned

    007-horz.jpg

    #3 Fully Cleaned.

    009-horz.jpg

    Very little pressure is applied and no abrasive marks are left behind.

    Obviously I would not attempt this on any of my better examples.
    013-horz.jpg

    017-horz.jpg
     
    spirit-of-shiloh and Linda like this.
  14. Linda

    Linda New Member

    I use a Sunshine cloth on my sterling jewelry. Cleans off the schmootz without taking off the warm patina that silver gets.
     
  15. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I thought coin guys recommended leaving the toning on coins
     
  16. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    They do, thats why I used a scrap one.
    However sometimes nice silver coins turn up covered in dirt, grease and oil or have been in fires and need to be preserved.
    Ammonia does not damage the original surface.
     
  17. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I'm a little bit reluctant to try ammonia on my gold washed/embellished case as I'd hate to remove too much.
     
  18. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Personally on your item I would leave it alone, it looks kind of cool .
     
  19. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Wouldn't OP's piece be considered "mixed metal"? I'd leave it alone.
     
  20. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

    Take a look at listings and completeds on e-bay, or other sites..

    This type of ciggie case, with this design, lack of desired makers/retailers mark, will bring you scrap plus. It isn't rare or scarce, no older than vintage, nor can be passed off/used today as a card case or wallet for paper money. It holds a king sized pack of ciggies. Not so PC these days.

    If you are selling it, clean the black stuff off....it doesn't take much. "Sunshine cloths" can be expensive and are really best saved for jewelry and touchups. Using a mild silver cream - go over the gold lightly, will make it presentable for sale. Yes, with the gold, it will sell better than plain silver, but I don't know if I would go so far as to describe it as mixed metal?
     
    User 67 likes this.
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: Cleaning silver
Forum Title Date
Silver Cleaning tips for HIGHLY tarnished silver Mar 16, 2023
Silver Cleaning silver Sep 12, 2022
Silver Silver Cleaning Help & ID Jul 19, 2019
Silver Cleaning Silver Nov 7, 2018
Silver Cleaning green putty off silverplate Apr 18, 2018

Share This Page