Featured Can someone help identify these dining pieces?

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by Tracy B, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member

    I have a sideboard, hutch, dining table and 8 chairs that I have been trying to identify the age/style of. Originally I thought black forest, then 19th century renaissance? Any help is appreciated. 20180130_103217.jpg 20180130_103252.jpg 20180130_103316.jpg 20180130_103332.jpg 20180130_103415.jpg
     
  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

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  3. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member

    Unfortunately I have found no labels on any of the pieces.
     
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  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I can only comment on the decorations, tell you what you probably already know. It all speaks of conviviality, good food, good wine &, well, the lady with one bare breast & standing on a dolphin is surely Venus. Think Roman banquet. The poor bird is now game; the fish have been hooked. Grapes, grape leaves, panthers & that sort of Green Man face all allude to the wine god Bacchus. The classical references add up to Renaissance revival in my mind.
     
  5. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member

    Ah Roman banquet - great description and I didn't even think the lady could be Venus? Thank you for your response it has helped.
     
  6. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    My BIL's brother bought a set like yours. We kidded him about it being a Vampires
    dining room set. He had a tiny dining room and with all the furniture in there was no room for people. I do not think he ever used it. His was a darker wood.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    greg
     
  7. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member


    :vamp::vamp:haha - I get it! We are in a similar situation, this set is in our dining room and while it is beautifully carved and sturdy our family jokes and calls it the King Arthur. My husband about has a stroke when we host dinners and have to use it. So I'm trying to find information on it to possibly get an appraisal.
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I generally call the style Victorian Over-the-top. Back in the 80s it was hot stuff.
     
  9. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member

    Here are some dovetail and hardware pictures on the pieces. The drawer pulls on the buffet are carved out under the mans mustache.
     

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  10. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member

    It certainly is over the top! So it may not be as old as I think it is...
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Don't know how old you think it is, but going by the photos of the chair casters & the way the underside of the table is constructed (tabletop expands?) + dovetails on drawers, surely not 1980s. Think it has been a good long time since things were made this way. How are those very heavy glass shelves in the hutch supported?
     
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  12. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member

    Yes the table expands with 6 leaves of various sizes 8" to 12". All of the moving pieces of the expansion is done with wood, pretty neat! The glass shelves are very heavy and are supported by a carved piece of wood. There are carved pieces along the interior where to make the shelves adjustable. There is no hardware with the shelves just the wooden inserts.

    I attached pictures of the expansion of the table and the shelving of the hutch.

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  13. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Id guess 1880s-1900 ,maybe European in origin . Its lovely,but you'd have to have a huge house to hold it! I assume the hutch goes on top of that sideboard? I dont even see stuff like this in the shops much anymore,its that unpopular. Wich I think is a shame.
     
  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Not in that room. It nearly reaches the ceiling while sitting on the floor. It has to be massively heavy. Putting it on top would give new meaning to 'groaning board' when talking about a dining room. It does look like something sat on top of the sideboard, another furniture section or a marble top, but 'footprint' is wrong for the hutch.
     
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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Or maybe both.

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  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    An Italian mansion would about hold it....
     
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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Upholstery is similar to this.

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  18. yourturntoloveit

    yourturntoloveit Well-Known Member

    Forget what I wrote.
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Have you identified the primary wood? Imagine that plays a role in value & may help date.

    This one, with game on one door, sea food on the other, is in the Met:

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    If you go down a little & expand the Timeline section, then select the essay on American Revival Styles, you can read a short account of 19th century American home furnishing trends.
     
  20. Tracy B

    Tracy B Member

    These are large, heavy pieces. I'm not certain that anything ever went on top of the sideboard. The cabinet is a separate piece to big and heavy to sit on top of the sideboard. Agree it's not the popular type of furniture and definitely needs the right type of house to show it.
     
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