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Discussion in 'Furniture' started by James Conrad, Dec 23, 2020.

  1. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I've been to St Anthony. Walked around the town and in the shops and meet some of the Newfies, who by far are the most generous, warm hearted and kind people, I have ever met. I went on a Whale watching trip that was out for 3 hours, because all the captain could find was fog. I plan to go back. I will look for Grenfell things. Thank you.
     
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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    St Anthony is now a tourist destination. It's the stepping-off point to L'Anse aux Meadows, the earliest known Viking site in North America.
     
  3. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I’ve been to L’Anse Aux Meadows and Port au Choix. Two must see places. I loved the Viking actors at L’Anse Aux Meadows. I was astonished that it was only a ship repair site for the Vikings and not a village.
     
  4. Ally330

    Ally330 Weekend thrifter

    Love this. Your right, maybe I'll take a look! Ty for your positivity.
     
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  5. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Of course I am right! :p
    In Jan 2019, the Vogel sale was at Sotheby's, I scored this table for $800 hammer, $1000. with BP. Estimate was 3-5k.
    The description was all wrong as well as the date but the provenance was a killer, including 2 furniture scholars, Wallace Nutting & Donald P White.
    It's a Pilgrim Century circa 1680 Square Hi-Lo stretcher table with a single side-hung drawer.
    https://www.sothebys.com/en/auction...nne-h-frederick-vogel-iii-n10003/lot.822.html
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    That's what I am talkin about, GO GET EM!:singing:
    Nothing beat a try but failure.
     
  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I remember that one. Deal of the decade! Bagging a 340 year-old piece of AMERICAN furniture for $1000 is like stealing.
     
  7. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    It was stealing and, I am happy as Larry about that theft!
    Everyone was looking elsewhere, at the BIG ticket pieces, like that table once owned by Thomas Jefferson that went for 120k.
    Meanwhile, Dad slipped out the side door with my prize, unnoticed by anyone!:cigar:
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    heh heh heh. I'm betting the seller wasn't happy, but them's the breaks when you go to auction with the reserve off.(LOL)
     
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  9. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Well, considering the seller, in this case, was Vogel and he was selling a 6 million dollar furniture collection at that sale, I doubt he noticed.:)
     
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  10. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Don't get me wrong, it can get a bit depressing to lose most of the time, like you'll never win again.
    Take the early Box that started this thread, I already know I'll be lucky to get a single bid in so no big deal, no harm no foul.
    It's the pieces that you KNOW you will win that hurt and are tough to get over.
    Like this box in 2010, I'll never get over this loss, NEVER! and, that's a long time.:(

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  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    For ethnographic collectors, Dat So La Lee is at least the equivalent of Thomas Dennis (who I had never heard of). The time consuming preparation of the natural materials, splitting and shaving each element to uniform size; the elegance and symmetry of her forms; the evenness of her tiny stitches; the precise placement of the design elements, calculated and worked in as the coiling progresses. Just masterful. I think the second one in the sale is even more phenomenal.
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  12. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I missed this as I wasn't a member then. Please tell about what happened.
     
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  13. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Well, let's not get carried away here! :writer: Taking nothing away from Dat So La Lee but it is 2 totally different things.
    Prepping that oak is far more difficult & time-consuming plus it involves tools, the oak must be rived (split) first, then planed into boards, then carved, and finally joined into furniture forms. All of these steps must also be performed at the precise moment the green oak is ready. Wait too long to carve it for example and you will need machine tools (not available then) as the oak will be much too dry & hard to carve by hand.
     
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    2 different crafts....but still both were Masters..!!!
     
  15. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I wasn't a member then either!:hilarious:
    There was this box I went after hard long ago, I spent a great deal of preparation before the sale on it and was almost sure victory was at hand, MAYBE NOT!
    My bid was almost 3 times the high estimate and was crushed as it sold for over 5 times......the point being, it didn't matter how much I was willing to bid, I was going to lose and that was THAT!
     
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  16. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    True!
     
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  17. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Hard when your heart is set on something. It doesn't sound like your typical strategy of laying low and snatching the best, underappreciated objects that you want to add to your collection. Smart of you to let it go when you could see someone wanted it more badly than you. You have taught me not to get swept up with auction fever, something I did years ago and lived to regret. I feel your disappointment.
     
  18. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Well, you don't expect the auctioneer to have the winning bid in his pocket before the sale starts UNLESS it is an object of great historical or other type value.
    Like the Jefferson table, it didn't matter what you bid, the auctioneer was authorized by someone to go to the next highest bid, if you follow what I am saying here.
     
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  19. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Someone put a crazy high bid on the book, or even an unlimited one if such are possible. (wouldn't surprise me)
     
  20. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the explanation. I guess you thought with a three times the highest estimate amount as your ceiling, you expected to be able to outbid those with only a casual interest. I wish I knew enough about anything to know how much that ceiling should be.
     
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