Featured Art Deco Hunter’s (diner? Restaurant?) dish identification help!

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  1. Jared92

    Jared92 Member

    Hi everyone!
    I’m a big collector of Salem Streamline/Tricorne dishes and just purchased this saucer with a “Hunter’s” logo on it which I’ve never come across. The dish was found in Greensboro NC but unfortunately that’s all I’ve got. Tried to do some searches on any Hunter’s restaurants, diners, or cafes from this era to match the logo, but no luck. Anyone recognize it? These dishes were produced in the 40s in Salem, Ohio. I’ll also attach some pictures of some of my collection, I’m always looking for for pieces! Hope it rings a bell for someone, would love to know the history of it!
    Thanks!
    Jared

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    What an interesting collection. Here's a Hunter's Restaurant in Orlando. Dates about right but looks a bit downscale to have customized china.

    https://hunters-restaurant.com

    Debora
     
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  3. Jared92

    Jared92 Member

    Thanks Debora!
    Youre right about the dates lining up. The logos aren’t the same but they could have gone through a few different logos. I sent them a message!
     
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  4. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing. Can you show us a mark in case we spot a triangular plate?
     
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  5. Jared92

    Jared92 Member

    Definitely! So there are different stamps, but here is an example. 6833D991-EC87-40E4-BE3D-931ABAC4F083.jpeg
     
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  6. Jared92

    Jared92 Member

    This one is more common I find
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  7. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I'll keep an eye out for you. Do you want only sets?
     
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  8. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    The Hunter's trademark here looks like yours...and it is associated with soda fountains. First, here is a comparison of the logos (I had to enlarge the tiny b/w logo, which made it rather pixellated):
    HuntersLogoComp.jpg

    HuntersTrademark.jpg
     
  9. Jared92

    Jared92 Member

    Oh wow! THAT is some good sleuthing! Thank you!
     
  10. Jared92

    Jared92 Member

    I’m interested in anything you come across! Thank you!
     
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  11. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    Here is the only little bit I could see in Google books; from the Carolina Journal of Pharmacy, Vol. 31. 1950. I would like to find the entire ad...
    HuntersLogo1950.jpg
     
  12. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    ...and I found it. Here is the full ad, from the 1950 Carolina Journal of Pharmacy, Vol 31
    HuntersFullAd1950.jpg
     
  13. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    Well HERE is a piece that would have gone nicely with your dishes.
     
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  14. Jared92

    Jared92 Member

    Amazing! Can I ask how you did that search? I’d love to know if anything like that could be found for Salem tricorne or Salem streamline. I’ve seen what can be found by just searching on google, but always interested in new ways to find content or dishes
     
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  15. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    It is often just a matter of entering the correct words. In this case I started at the USPTO and just searched for Hunter's. I got something like 3500 results, but among them only about six were exactly "Hunter's," so it was easy to scroll through the results quickly and click only on the ones that were for Hunter's.

    From that result (I swear it is ALWAYS on the last page...) I saw it was assigned to the H.B. Hunter Co., so that is what I searched for next: "H.B. Hunter Co" "Hunter's"

    The other thing that invariably helps is to not just settle for the "All" Google search results, but to also click on ":More" at the top of the Google screen, then select "Books" That usually brings up older hits, which is usually what I am looking for.
     
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  16. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    I forgot to add that once I found the Google hit on the 1950 Carolina Journal of Pharmacy, where I could only see the top part of the logo, I searched for "Carolina Journal of Pharmacy" vol. 31 and found it HERE.
     
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  17. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    In a university library database to which I have access I found a 1934 ad for Salem China's new Tricorne shape and in the same publication I found an article that had a paragraph about the new shape.

    For copyright reasons I cannot reproduce the ad or article, but I will transcribe the information, for educational purposes.

    The ad and article were in the October 1934 issue of the Crockery & Glass Journal. The ad touted Salem China's "New 'Tricorne' Shape; Patent Applied For" and added "Once more SALEM announces the sensation of the year! Foremost stylists have acclaimed the TRICORNE as the vogue of the season. Now, we offer this smart new Bridge Set n Tricorne Shape in a variety of lovely decorations..."

    I transcribed the longer article reference and when I went to post it I found I was no longer logged in and I lost it all (I really wish it wouldn't do that), so I will retype it in the next post.
     
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  18. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    ...and here is the reference in the same publication, in a article that discusses new dinnerware shapes: "A SHORT LINE uses an unusual shaped tricorne plate for smart service at the Salem China Co. The plate is a triangular shape with arched sides and will actually hold as much and is as large as the ordinary dinner plate. As yet they have not modelled cups or other pieces for this setup, but that grand Streamline shape which we discussed several months ago is being used. The cups have fine moden (sic) lines, while the sugar and creamer carry through with the same feeling. These tricorne sets are being made up in tea and bridge service for the present although they are planning to develop this line for the near future into regular dinner service. The decorations on this shape are extremely simple and use banded treatments as well as solid color shoulders. These in effective colors make for a grand tea service."
     
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  19. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    From a Jan 1935 ad, here are some tricorne designs...something for which you can hunt!
    SalemChinaTricorneDesignsJan1935.jpg
     
  20. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

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