Featured Governor Winthrop Style Desk - Price Point

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by KikoBlueEyes, Dec 3, 2020.

  1. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yes, they are old, dating to the European Renaissance.
    The smaller (usually 30"-36" square without the leafs extended) 20th century English revival tables were kinda "hot" once upon a time not that long ago but alas, have fallen out of favor as have many furniture forms.
    Quicky on LiveAuctioneers had this one, sold last year for a WHOLE $22. USD on 19 bids! GEEZ, it must have started out at $1. needs refinishing but still.......

    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/71622498_antique-jacobean-style-oak-pub-table

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  2. James Conrad

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  3. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Breaks my heart when I see this. Replacing my table and chairs is lower down my list, but I would gone for it if I had known. I have to replace my entrance table and blanket chest first, but I got to know the final cost of the expansion of my garage project will be before that. Wouldn't you know it, I figured with a three car garage my new F250 would fit, but NO. Because it is jacked up to carry the weight of my slide-camper, the opening height is 1/2 inch too short, as well as being a couple of inches too short in length. Just torture me with all these pretties you will.
     
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  4. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    @James Conrad When I talked about my friend's draw leaf table, it looks like I was mistaken. It is 10 foot long without additional leaves. He was told it was a library table . It did have to be assembled in place, though, and he showed me the wooden pegs that were used on the ends. Slot screws were used to connect the base to the top. I don't know if they are original. It is 10 foot long and 3.6 foot wide. It has solid tiger oak planks on the top each showing a different grain. There are no marks, except I suspect a mark made during the restoration that he had done prior to its coming into his home. Here are some photos. It will take two posts to show them. IMG_8142.jpg IMG_8139.jpg IMG_8155.jpg IMG_8140.jpg IMG_8145.jpg IMG_8144.jpg IMG_8149.jpg IMG_8151.jpg IMG_8150.jpg IMG_8152.jpg
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Nice table!!
     
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  6. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    A few more photos of my friend's table. The last one is one of the wooden pegs. IMG_8149.jpg IMG_8150.jpg IMG_8153.jpg IMG_8138.jpg
     
  7. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    He's pretty proud of it. I'll tell him you liked it.
     
  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    No, don't think so, more likely a revival Refectory table.
    "A refectory table is a highly elongated table used originally for dining in monasteries in Medieval times. In the Late Middle Ages the table gradually became a banqueting or feasting table in castles and other noble residences."
     
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  9. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    What revival would that be? He thinks it was purchased in England and shipped back here
     
  10. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, looking at the screws, I'd guess 20th century
     
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  11. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    now those screws maybe be because of the restoration not original. When he bought it is was in pieces.
     
  12. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Well, could be late 19th at the earliest, machine-made for sure. Those incised lines are awfully "crisp". Ditto the holes bored underneath and trestle parts.
    Add in It does not look like solid quarter sawn oak, the tabletop boards underneath are different.
    A lot of machining to do all that, 20th century my best guess
     
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  13. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Solid points. This is why I asked you. I knew you would know. Thank you for taking the time to look it over. I really appreciate it.
     
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  14. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Another thing, that trestle in the middle like the makers were not real sure they could span that distance without it sagging.
    Typically in 19th century revival english refectory tables, you don't see that middle trestle.
     
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  15. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Because the wood would be of one piece and able to span the 10 feet?
     
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  17. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    You are terrific. I am in awe of your knowledge and analytic power. Thank you.
     
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  19. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I have to look this over carefully but am unable to do it until later. Have myriad appts this morning
     
  20. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    So when my friend talked about the pegs, he was taking about "connected by a moulded centre stretcher with pegged through tenons"? You found a wonderful example.
     
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