Cameo Signature Help Needed

I feel as though I've seen it before too, but could have been on this piece. I see it as an 'M', in part because it is the more likely initial for an Italian engraver. If it's German then W reasonably likely. The care with which it has been incised makes me think engraver rather than dealer.

 

Horses really weren't his best thing, were they?

 

Neither were the clouds - they look like boulders.

 

Another Schmoll/Silz cameo with a hefty price tag of GBP 725.00. 18K gold

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cameo-En...732337?hash=item42264279f1:g:e~cAAOSw2d9f1ehC

 

Same people who have this lovely:



Price:
£1,450.00

Roman origin , a Wonderfully example , of roman cameo art .

 

Entruscan Period? I think they meant Etruscan Period but still, sure doesn't look 3rd century BC

 

That is hideous.

 

I emailed the seller and they have edited their listing

 

Here is an unknown signature for consideration. Does anyone recognize it? To me it reads Emiliano? It is on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Vi...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

This arrived in the post today and while cleaning it have a guess who’s signature I found on the back. Oh no...



Schmoll again.

I liked it because is based on a famous sculpture and the setting, even battered, is Scottish silver & Montrose agate. I just need to find a replacement stone...

 

It's 20th century so getting into terra incognito for me. It does look like Emiliano. I did something I rarely do, went to the book Cameos Old & New by Anna Miller, 4th edition, revised by Diana Jarrett to see if I could find an Emiliano there. My interest in cameos started with a desire to ID subjects; I found so many errors on this score in Miller that I shelved it. But it does have quite a lot to say about the contemporary cameo scene so I checked. No luck. There's a period in the first 40 years of the 20th century that just doesn't seem to have been documented in any readily accessible way - maybe not in any way - and that's when I think Emiliano was working. The subject is the monument John Gibson made for the Roscoes.

 

LOL. Knew who it was by immediately because I have also seen this one:



The seller of the lady contacted me to ask if I knew the signature. At the time I had to tell him it was one of my Great White Whales.

What form of the signature does yours have?

 

Silz form. Sorry it’s too dark now to take a photo of it.

 

Every time I see those ringlets, I think of our Jivvy...

 

I should give her a Christmas ping.

 

Another signature for consideration: This one is on the front of the cameo- I make out P Le. It is very small. The hallmarks on the cameo setting are for Birmingham 1898.

 

Could this be Julia Agrippina /Agrippina the Younger/, wife of Claudius, whom she killed with a poisonous mushroom, sister of the infamous emperor Caligula and mother of the no less infamous emperor Nero who, after unsuccessful attempt to drown her, sent three men to kill her?

 

Such a loving family

 

It does look like P Le or maybe P l e. The time period is that turn of the century period that seems such a black hole for names of active carvers. After finding out that 'Silz' was 'Schmoll', I don't assume anything from what I think I see.

 

This is one of the most famous cameos in the world:

https://www.johndclare.net/AncientHistory/Agrippina_Sources6.html



The ringleted girl looks like a portrait to me, although, if so, the only one I've seen Schmoll do.