Dish set?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Psittac, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. Psittac

    Psittac Active Member

    These are supposed to be a set to one extent or another. Someone that gave us advice left a paper saying 7 piece set but 8 are pictured and only two of them have a marking on the bottom.

    There are more pictures and better ones can be taken.


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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Interesting. You've got what looks like a mix of older Chinese pieces, European faience and I think some English faience.
     
  3. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    As Bear said, interesting.

    Looks to be some handpainted Delft.

    Are the two scallop edged plates earthenware, I cant see any damage.
     
  4. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    It appears to be seven pieces of pearlware in a house pattern (it may have a better name, I'll see what I can find) and one delftware dish. On occasion there will be an impressed mark but I think (if I remember the last I heard correctly) the blue marks are probably the painters marks.
     
  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Maybe (not too surprisingly as I have many) I have a book that addresses this type of earthenware. I've got an assortment of this type so found a book:). The book is Painted in Blue by Lois Roberts and from The Northern Ceramic Society is you're interested.

    They seem to call it a pagoda pattern sometimes (if it fits) pagoda and fence. At least those that have the building on them.

    It's hard to tell for sure from your photos but pearlware is an earthenware similar to creamware but with a bit of cobalt added to the clear glaze making it appear whiter and often where the clear glaze pools in the crevices you can see a blue cast to it. Many of these types are pearlware but occasionally the same pattern is painted on creamware and in that case the clear glaze appears more yellowish and will pool yellow or slightly greenish in the crevices.
     
  6. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member


    SIS, not another book I have to buy ;)
     
  7. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    It's an awesome book but really only covers this type of refined earthenware with lots of patterns similar to this as well as the Long Eliza pattern and a few others. The other part of the title is Underglaze Blue Painted Earthenwares 1775 to 1810. :D
     
  8. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    SIS, just bought it, how could I resist :)
     
  9. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Don't know how much you already know about the things you are asking about.
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    But just in case you don't.
    1. Is a Muffineer or sugar shaker
    2. Is a tea caddy missing the lid.
     
  10. KentWhirled

    KentWhirled Well-Known Member

    Very nice!
     
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  11. KentWhirled

    KentWhirled Well-Known Member

    Just for confirmation of my thoughts, I posted some of your pix to another site — I hope you don’t mind, but there are posters there who really know this stuff. The English delft plates would date to 1760 to 1790 and the pearlware (the bluish tint to the glaze where it pools) is c. 1780 to 1800. So, as I said above, very nice, and really antique! :)
     
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  12. KentWhirled

    KentWhirled Well-Known Member

    #Psittac. The pix of the bases are the tea caddy and the small bowl or the large bowl? Thanks.
     
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  13. Psittac

    Psittac Active Member

    large bowl :)
     
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  14. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I didn't see any chinese. Looks delft.
     
  15. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    This looks like onion. :rolleyes:
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