Featured Old gold brooch with silver picture inset?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Aureliel, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. Aureliel

    Aureliel Member

    That is a great point about it originally having contained a hair memento, and someone replaced it! That seems to make sense, but the only problem is that like you, I can't really see how you could open or remove the glass without damaging it. It does have a few scratches on the top, but doesn't seem to have anything much around the edges, and it seems really difficult to take it off and replace it without causing that sort of damage. Still, it may well be possible! Thank you very much for all your informative posts about this topic :)
     
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I never implied that jewellery with a sentimental attachment to the Jacobite cause isn't being made today. But it is just that, a sentimental use of the white cockade for instance, but with no political value.
    The strength of the symbolism of truly politically motivated Jacobite jewellery is extremely powerful, it cannot be compared to jewellery of mere sentimental value.
    The imagery was revived during the second Celtic Revival by companies like Saltire Jewellery, along with 'the Bruce's broken axe jewellery' etc. They don't make it because they support the Jacobite cause, but for sentimental/commemorative reasons. And tourists love it of course.

    My own Scottish relatives vote SNP and are Catholic, but even they don't support the Jacobite cause, because with the death of James Stewart, 'the Old Pretender' in 1766, there was no Jacobite cause to support. Sure, there was Charles Edward, 'Bonnie Prince Charlie', who had fought on his father's behalf, but he had turned to drink after the '45, and wasn't recognized by the pope as king. Charles Edward died in 1788.
    Without Papal and French support, the Jacobites knew their cause was lost.

    When the ban on Highland symbols was lifted, the old Scottish and Celtic symbols were revived. But no more real Jacobite jewellery was made, because there was no real Jacobite cause anymore. Sentimental imagery does not constitute a political statement. That is why Jacobite jewellery is so extremely rare and valuable, something that was already mentioned in this thread:
    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/sterling-silver-pendant-edinburgh-1735.16299/#post-226231
    Obb, in the same thread you yourself said of Jacobite jewellery: "a thing worn in secret, which would have got you imprisoned if discovered". So you do know the difference between genuine Jacobite Jewellery and later sentimental/commemorative jewellery, and know what I meant earlier on in this thread.
    You also called Scotland Hibernia, by the way.;) Maybe you were thinking of a nice holiday in the emerald isle?:playful:

    I don't see any Culloden/Jacobite connection in this lovely brooch, and agree with Bronwen that it could have been made as a private memento.
     
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  3. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Once an idea or motif is out there, it's available to anyone at any time. I think this type of trophy was Roman in origin. Not sure about that, but they've been around for a long time.
     
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