Green Roseville Freesia 124-9 at a consignment store, would you buy it?

This vase is at my consignment store for $80. With sales tax would come to around $88.

I believe it is the exact one shown in the auction below. Same height, has the purple and white Freesia on one side, white on the reverse.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roseville-P...214?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5409659d4e

Would have to double check CAREFULLY, but at first glance, the consignment store vase seemed in mint condition. I left it thinking Roseville is a bit soft right now, but now see that there is the exact vase under completed that sold for $188 -- but who knows if that was a one time sale. This one advertises $185, or best offer.

I'm inclined not to get it, but if truly in perfect condition, should I rethink that?

 

I'd buy it if it was ten bucks or less

I'm growing tired of stuff that doesn't move

It's six years too late to mess with Roseville

 

Before you do (and I must admit that I love the freesia design!) check out sites that show faked vs authentic Roseville marks so you can look to see whether the one at the store has the right mark.

 

The glaze and size are more important to know than the marks for spotting fakes

 

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$69

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROS...143?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418ae63dc7

 

I'm probably going to pass on it -- interesting to learn people's thoughts, helpful! Thanks, Terry and Bakersgma.

The one above is blue with just white Freesia, not that it makes a huge difference, but the one in consignment store (same size) is green with purple and white freesia. Like this one sold although they list in the description 123-9, maybe that is the difference in value:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROSEVILLE-POTTERY-VASE-FREESIA-124-9-/221610759765?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339907d655&nma=true&si=fBVv7%2Bvgz7d5O1JTrrSDnoJAPkY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

It is a stunning piece in person, but I understand that the market has really gone soft on these. I still like the look, though. I believe the one in the store is not a repro, the glaze and weight seemed good, but I am not a total expert and all things considered think I should pass on it. Thanks.

 

They got the paint better on the more recent fakes

I think the main reason for the price drop is that there are fakes at all, and too many can't tell

Old Fenton doesn't sell as well since modern Fenton is made in China

Early Hummels don't sell as well now that modern Goebel production is in China

 

Here is a link to one of the sites with some Roseville fakes though I don't know that it's been update recently so there could be lots more. It does also show real vs fake bases.

http://www.laurelhollowpark.net/roseville/roseville.html#catalog

Every so often I browse Roseville auctions to see if a particular pattern I like has fallen into my price range and so far...not (of course) but overall the prices I've been seeing Roseville offered for in real life still can be all over the place. I don't know how much actually sells but I'm with Terry, I think that once the fakes started showing up everywhere (antiques stores eek) then anyone could have a look alike for cheap. Some of the fakes were terrible quality but some were not as hard to look at.

I'm of the opinion that if you're buying for yourself you buy what you like if it fits your pocketbook. If you're buying to sell you have to buy cheap (relatively speaking). Of course around here many antique malls and consignment shops will take 10% off if you just ask if they can do better on the price. Don't know if that's common practice where you are or not.

 

Hi,
I agree, if you want it to keep the price is about right. If you are buying for resale hopefully in the future the prices will rise. I have a couple of pieces of Roseville that I paid more for than I should have. They are stored waiting for the demand to come back. So if you LOVE it buy it, otherwise let it go.
greg

 

What Greg said. If you want it for yourself, think VERY carefully before passing it up -- otherwise it may be one of those things that one never forgets, but always regrets!

 

I used to collect pottery back in its heyday, still love it but almost never buy it anymore due to the lack of resale value. The fakes really hit the Roseville market hard.

 

I am with the others. I also used to be a big pottery dealer but hardly buy it any more unless just dirt cheap. I have given up trying to sell any Roseville, Weller, Fulper, or other better pottery. I have nice second tier pieces (Niloak, Brush McCoy, Camark, Red Wing, etc.) in the store that I can't get $15-30.00 for. For some reason, I can sell modern Van Briggle and run of the mill McCoy at cheap prices but nothing old and good. There seems to be a slightly better market on ebay for some things but, overall, the market has remained dead.

 

Thanks for all of the thoughts. This is very helpful. The consignment store one seems to be a nice piece and I believe it to be authentic, but on the link SIS provided, saw that 124-9" is also being reproduced, so I've now lost all interest in taking this gamble. I usually don't spend that kind of money unless I'm fairly sure what I'm doing, and between a soft market and possible fakes, it's definite. I'm going to pass.

It is a shame about the Chinese repros. I'm surprised they even have a market for such a thing, but what do I know.

I think certain pieces in the line still have a good following, Roseville was always one of my favorite styles of pottery with the wonderful colors and florals, unusual shapes to the vases, handles etc. A very creative maker. It seems kind of timeless to my eye.