Featured Russian,Soviet,Copy...Undergrowth Impressionism Painting ,Oil on canvas not signed...??? Please help

Hi to everyone...

Once again,knocking your door for more accurate and facts research on this Painting.
Yes...It supposed to be Russian...I think old enough to be 19th century....
Unfortunately not signed...But looks to have been made by a Good Painter...???
Is this a copy of an already known Painting..?? Your researches in the past have helped me to consider that my paintings were a copy of....
So far I hope this one has got the identity of a creator Painter for this Undergrowth Scene.
The Painting itself measures 48x33c. excl Frame.....Maybe a good news from you all...
Thanking you in advance...
JB

 

The painting on the front looks a hundred years younger than the whittling and staining on the back.

Not an enormously technically expert painter of nature, imo.

I would not necessarily call this "impressionistic" either. Just a nature painting.

 

OK...Thanks for your expertise...

 

@BTZ64 , It seriously looks like a painting by listed California artist William Lemos (1861-1942) who painted at the Boardwalk, where he had a studio in Santa Cruz, California. So many of his paintings survive because so many tourists bought them and took them home. Many of his paintings were unsigned and most were in the exact same type of frame as that painting . I have one of a forest fire . They varied in size from small and painted on a redwood slab to living room sized large paintings . They varied in quality because towards the end of his life he was almost blind. His son was also a listed artist . He was a very good artist , some of the mountain scenes I have seen are wonderful. Lemos Street in Santa Cruz is named after him .

https://www.google.com/search?q=wil...UNu54KHeMRCckQ_AUoAnoECAUQBA&biw=1366&bih=606


https://www.johnmoran.com/auction-lot/william-lemos-1861-1942-santa-cruz-ca-path-throug_4EF424987D


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2510209.m570.l1313&_nkw=william+lemos&_sacat=0

 

It looks to me like a nice sketch painting, probably from nature. Unfortunately, we need more clues to say more about this painting.

 

late 19thc amateur work

 

That is what it appears to be. And dirty.

Debora

 

From what I can see, the painted image is original to the canvas.
I've flipped the painting and laid it over the back. The saturated paint lines up to the image. The first image has no overlay. The other show progressively more of the painting.

James.

 

Don't see why it wouldn't be. And you've looked for a signature. The thing is... Works like this are impossible to identify. All you've got is "supposed" to be Russian and the frame which could well be late 19th century. Other than that, I would think an amateur work. But done by someone with art training.

Debora

 

I believe this was made by someone for whom art was leisure, not a profession.
Most probably, the 19th century. Can't say anything, whether Russian or no.

 

I agree.
It was mentioned earlier that the front looked newer that the back and is just something to look for.
It could have been painted over another image.

James.

 

To my eye, there's not a discrepancy between age of painting and age of frame but, of course, others may disagree.

Debora

 

Looks to be a different painting hand to me, but you say the roughened backs, made to look crude, are by Lemos?

 

The front painting does appear newer to me, but that may be because the back appears to have been stained brown, canvas too. I don't think this is an 1800s painting, but I don't see enough of the paint details to guess.

@BTZ64 , are there any cracking marks on the front? How thick is the paint? Are there areas of impasto, where the paint has been built up.

 

Judging by the lack of detail in some areas you can tell it was not done by a professionally trained artist. I agree 19th century amateur work.

 

I agree, very different. The tones of the Lemos paintings are much harsher, and the technique is different. Obviously the age is different too.
It is unusual for American paintings to end up in Europe anyway.

 

Hi Antidem...I do agree with you...But I have a BUT...!!! Maybe the Painting is Younger...Maybe it has been painted on top of an older one.And I do find the background more better than the first one..But...The light(La Lumiere) of this painting has been well made...Photos might not be given this aspect...I will put more detailed photos on answers I have to give to your colleagues comments....jck

 

Frankly speaking...I can't see at all any similar resemblance or technique....But I can imagine that the painting has been tampered...Particularly first plan of it...I wish I could clean it with the right products in order to discover something else..??...But would need the precious recipe to make it...Acetone plus I don't know what else..???

 

Yes April07...Agreed...Maybe a tempered painting which hide something else under..??