Identification help: Coffee Grinders

Hi ppl

I have picked up 3 coffee grinders recently.

First one called "PERFEKT" is gonna be easy to ID because it has branding on it. Something about Sweden...

Second one is a square hand crank vertical burr grinder that has been adorned by its owner. I have seen similarish images online, but nothing close to this one. Some things I can tell you: Under the metal adornment is leather. Some if the metal is producing some kind of oxidation (I guess this negates anything precious/semi precious) green so brass? Some of the other metal retains its sheen and did not seem to oxidise. The mill has been adorned beyond the point of functionality as the lid has been soldered shut in the effort. I am thinking that this grinder (whether antique or not) has western origins and had been "made pretty" - something along the lines of Moroccan, Touareg, East African or Bedouin. Any ideas?

3rd one is similar to above, oval in shape and there is no leather underlay. The motif is leading more to an eastern or oriental style with dragons all round.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback, opinions, knowledge and news (good or bad). I bought these as a gift and I would love to tell a little bit more of the story when I present to the receiver.

Lastly, I bought them all 3 in a curio/junk/antique shop on Zanzibar East Africa. The shop owner was nice, but could not offer me anything real as to their origin or where he got them from. (BTW, if you ever go to Zanzibar, this place is a collectors dream!)

 

more pics needed.
the two top ones look French from Peugeot.
the only interesting is the bottom oval one.

https://www.google.ch/search?q=moul...USsXEKHU8-BpEQ_AUoAXoECAMQAw&biw=1184&bih=535

 

More pics.
Grinder #1

 

More pics.
Grinder #2

 

More pics.
Grinder #3

 

looks as if there were Peugeot ones used as basic for the innards on the last one as well. the gears and grinding unit were for a long time the best all along North Africa and in the French colonies. modification to the housings and adornments aren't unusual.
as Zanzibar was a big port also for ships from Asia, the last one might be a modified tea container from China.
they look all around 1910s to 1920s when French merchants also flooded the markets with industrially made tea kettles.

 

Thanks Fid, really much appreciated!
Would you be willing to speculate on value?

Couple more pics of the insides, if anyone recognises the mechanisms...

 

Not that I take ebay as my source of truth... but 2 sellers claim the oval one is Danish. An it looks pretty close in shape and features to the one I have...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Danish-COF...fe-Molinillo-Kaffeemuehle-caffe-/264512528317

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage...rt-Deco-Cafe-Display-Not-Working/192669590699

Edit: I think I have found it...

https://www.etsy.com/listing/996282...how_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-19...NTIE-WOODEN-COFFEE-GRINDER-MILL-/151390258328

Czech!

 

lucky find then, seems it's much rarer than the two other ones.
https://www.nachrichtentruppe.de/en...r-and-its-use-in-the-wehrmacht-myth-and-truth

they of course had one of the biggest industrial complexes of Europe with Škoda and certainly the hardened steel needed available.
so, a good and rare find.

 

Appreciate!

 

Wow!!! I think yours are VERY COOL in that, time was taken to decorate them beautifully!!! Did you look in the SOLD listings on EBay, if they are still showing them??

WELCOME to ANTIQUERS, by the way!!

 

Thanks Aquitaine

There are ones similar to my ones on fleabay from time to time, but I am not really keeping tabs.

From my research and the help of FID, this is where I am with these three:

Grinder#1 is a factory produced, branded original piece and the model I can make out a "PERFEKT" and maybe the word Sweden at the bottom of the logo. Made of tin or similar.

Grinder#2 I have not been able to identify. After the craftsman finished his adornment effort, there is almost zero distinguishing features left for me to go by. The only thing that might be a clue is the bottom of the grinder mechanism when you look in from the bottom. But I dont have enough experience to ID it this way.

Grinder#3 I am pretty sure I have it down as a B.O.GARANTIE from Czechoslovakia. It has also been adorned, but there are very distinguishable features. I also looked at the innards that was left unmodified, and they line up with original ones online.

The only thing I would love to know is an appraiser's opinion of their value.

 

just to understand what I meant with them being Peugeot. the important thing on these is the round grinding unit and to a lesser degree the shafts, gears etc.. the housings themselfes were always simple wooden ones shown in my first link and often adorned or even changed to local tastes.
theoretically the "Swedish" one could be a swedish wood housing with French innards; or simply assembled and painted by the importer.

 

Okay, I get you. Like buying a crate motor and putting it in whatever car/truck/kit body you fancy...

The Sweden once really looks "produced". En the body is tin or whatever period era applicable metal. So I guess this is a small kitchen appliance company that that bought different parts and assembled and branded the stuff...?
It is peculiar that I can find absolutely ZERO online about that one.

Anyways, thanks again for your insight.