Featured Iraqi Neckless

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  1. JOHN W HERRINGTON

    JOHN W HERRINGTON New Member

    I am seeking help to identify this neckless origin, age and if it is a ceremonial piece. I obtained the neckless while in Mosul Iraq during the war. I would appreciate anyone with knowledge of this piece to respond. Thank you
     

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  2. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    It looks fairly modern and crude to me and probably Christian but I'm no expert.


    Was it found, bought or looted ?
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Same for me. It's nickel and seed beads - India and Nepal do a ton of similar pieces, but the Mary image is a departure. OTOH there are or were a good-sized population of Catholics in southern India.
     
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  4. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

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  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Two of the images full size.....and WELCOME to ANTIQUERS, John!!!:):)

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  6. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    We have a number of friends and acquaintances who are both Christian and Jewish who have migrated to the USA. At one time, there was a large Jewish community in Iraq. Now it is about 3000. Many are here. Christians have come from almost all the strongly Arab countries, seeing their demise written in recent history. They all miss their homelands but are happy to not be there now. It is sad to see them driven out of their homelands.
     
  7. JOHN W HERRINGTON

    JOHN W HERRINGTON New Member

    I purchased it in 1999 from a local Iraqi thru the fence while at a U.S. FOB in Mosul Iraq (Kurdish region).
     
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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Not a safest transaction......but it is a nice looking piece !!! :happy:
     
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    Fid Well-Known Member

  10. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Were you the "grunt"?
     
  11. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    It’s sweet! This is almost certainly made for Christians, but anecdotally the style reminds me of the Persian houses from the 17th-19th centuries, decorated with pictures of western women. An odd mash-up, but definitely interesting!
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Welcome John, that is a pretty rare piece.
    The two support chains going from the top centre of the pendant to the necklace proper are a feature of Kurdish necklaces, and the type of link is seen a lot in Kurdish jewellery too (though not exclusively). It is silver, btw, not nickel.
    The pendant is in Middle Eastern prayer box style, and could contain a piece of paper with a blessing or a prayer.
    Since there is still a Kurdish Christian minority, and some Middle Eastern Christian faiths have links to the Roman Catholic church, I would say this really is a Kurdish Christian necklace.

    The nun holding the crucifix and roses is St Theresa of Lisieux, a French saint. Not that unusual, given the connection between several Middle Eastern Christian churches and the Roman Catholic church.

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    There was a tenth century Kurdish prince who converted to Christianity, he could be the repoussé horse rider on the back, but that is speculation on my part.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Dahhak
     
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  13. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    This is so cool!!!
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Forgot to add, the blue of the beads serves to ward off evil. Placing the beads sideways creates an eye effect, which means protection against the evil eye.
     
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  15. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    @Any Jewelry
    I am humbled daily by your immense knowledge!:woot:
     
  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :shy::kiss:
    This one was easy, I have some Kurdish necklaces myself. And my grandmother had Theresa of Lisieux items all over the place.;)
     
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  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it must have taken a lot for someone to part with this..............:inpain:
    or
    it wasn't theirs in the 1st place...! ???;)
     
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  18. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    That is a very, very good point— it was acquired in a war-zone. That went right over my head.
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Was the first thing I thought about, but then I have been here a few years and have seen items from war zones, occupied zones etc appear on the forums. When they do, I always have a multitude of scenarios in my head.
     
  20. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    *Please file under: “things that made me go scrutinize my own collection” :(
     
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