Antique Owen Coat Of Arms Watercolor

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  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    IMG_6049.JPG IMG_6050.JPG IMG_6051.JPG The notation on the back says circa 1830 but I wonder if there is a way to verify that?
     
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  2. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Sometimesgetsitright

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  3. Bronwen

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  4. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Why do I need a post card from Zazzle?
     
  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I have found that those commercial heraldry sites are not very trustworthy when it comes to portraying family crests.
    My family has a perfectly good, old coat of arms, recognized by the Dutch 'Patrician Registry' (the Low Countries were historically mostly governed by a non-aristocratic elite called patricians). But when I researched the history of it, I came across the strangest, often imaginary, crests on commercial heraldry sites.
    Btw, the "institute" in the link doesn't even know my family name, shame on them.;)
     
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  6. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Do you think that this piece was made for a specific family or it's more like a general painting?
    Any idea if that castle in the background was an existing or fantasy one?

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  7. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I did find this on a particular Owen family lineage. The first one sounds like it might be the correct one. No idea how to know how old the painting is though. I don't suppose there is a watermark on the paper is there?

    Google books: The Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the British Empire by John Burke ESQ from the sixth edition 1839.

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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    There is something a little more here. In addition to the coat of arms, with the motto on the ribbon, think I see at the bottom the words 'I WENT'? Commemorative of participation in a battle/war? An addition that indicates a particular branch of the Owen family?
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Gwent, in Wales.
    Isn't Bronwen a Welsh name?;)
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    There are several famous castles in Gwent. @rhiwfield lives in Wales, maybe this castle still exists?
     
  11. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    IMG_6094.JPG Actually, the bottom reads Owen.
     
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  13. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    The Owen link is to Pembroke, but castles in Wales are so numerous and I don't recognise those ruins.

    Might be worth checking out the castles around Pembroke.
     
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  14. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    IMG_6510.JPG IMG_6511.JPG Well, took it out of the frame finaly. Paper is marked "WJ".
    WJ Reeves?
     
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