Complexion Brush and other oddities

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Snipsa, Nov 30, 2014.

  1. Snipsa

    Snipsa Active Member

    Good day all.

    New to the forums. I recently bought a brown rubber complexion brush from an online auction site here in South Africa. Can somebody tell me whether this is a Bailey's brush, knock-off or what? It just says complexion brush on top and has an interesting pattern around it. Any idea as to value?

    I also bought a packet of very old piatnik playing cards. Condition is fair to poor. It says Nr 119 on the box. Can somebody please help me with approximate date of issue? I can't find much info on the web on dating the old Piatnik cards.

    Lastly is an interesting small lighter. It says pat applied for on the bottom. and KemCo on the inside.


    Again date of manufacture will be appreciated


    thanks!


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  2. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

  3. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

  4. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Here is a set of 2 decks of Piatnik playing cards Nr119 in their original box. Some of the printing on the inside of the box that I can read says Wiener Spielbarten fabrile and Ferd- Piatnik & Söhne. One of the decks is the same as yours. The auction site doesn't give an age.

    http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/154730494/PIATNIK_Playing_Cards_Nr_119_AUSTRIA.html

    From the write-up on Ferd Piatnik & Söhne in Wiki... the sons of Ferdinand Piatnik joined the company in 1882 with sons added to the name. The company is still in operation today. The earliest date for these cards is may be 1882 when Söhne was added to the name??? By Googling Piatnik playing cards, links to several decks of their cards come up.

    --- Susan
     
  5. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    You might find help on the following website, "World of Playing Cards."
    http://www.wopc.co.uk/

    That site has a page on the Vienna pattern or Wiener Bild playing cards that I suspect is what the pattern of your cards are. It seems that pattern is and was double-ended noted for large crowns. The old original versions of this pattern had no corner indices and were in the 32 card format. If your pack is of the Vienne pattern it is a newer version. Your pack does have a double-ended pattern but does not have corner indices. Also figures in yours pack are holding different items then those pictured on the website. The webpage says the Piatnik company is still producing this pattern today.
    http://www.wopc.co.uk/austria/wiener.html
     
  6. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Wait a minute!! The following page on that "World of Playing Cards" website looks more like the pattern of yours cards. This pattern is called Rococco. It says the Rococco style of decorative arts "...has been popular with playing card designers, including versions produced by Dondorf and Piatnik." This pattern has the woman in white wigs holding fans, mirrors, etc... like your cards.
    http://www.wopc.co.uk/switzerland/rococco.html

    Here are 8 pages of links on the "World of Playing Cards" that mention Piatnik. You might go through them for other examples like yours.
    http://www.wopc.co.uk/search?search=Piatnik&id=16&sisea_offset=0

    Here are relatively new decks of your cards:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-2-dec...293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462d0a01ed

    --- Susan
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2014
  7. Snipsa

    Snipsa Active Member

    Thank you so much everyone! Susan the link to the nr119 cards on the bidorbuy site is in fact the cards that I own. I bought them from that seller. So you can view those photos for more details if you like. But I believe the Rococco design is correct. So probably 1920's to 40's?

    The complexion brush is definitely rubber. I was also only able to find the Bailey's adds but they don't look qiite the same... But can I assume it came from that same timeframe (1890's) Victorian?

    Thanks for the link to the lighters page. Can safely assume my lighter was 40's to 50's.


    Again thanks for all the help!
     
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