Name for this Wedgwood Urn

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  1. kellaurm

    kellaurm Well-Known Member

    Hi, I can't seem to find another one like it on the web. Does anyone know if there is a name for this pattern or how old/rare it may be? Screen Shot 2020-08-17 at 1.52.28 PM.png
     
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  2. i need help

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    It would be helpful to show the marks.
     
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  3. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Paging @Bronwen - a classical scene for you.
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Yes, please post a close-up photograph of the Wedgwood mark.

    Debora
     
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    393B60DC-BF79-4D57-A20D-C57C35C794E8.jpeg 2D640158-7025-4D0F-AA9A-8BED725A4A4E.jpeg Is there a different scene on the reverse?
    This is from a dead link.
     
  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  8. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    This auction gives this background (have not verified).

    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/71516320_a-wedgwood-blue-jasper-tablet-circa-1860-after-the

    "Camillo Pacetti (1758-1826) was engaged by Josiah Wedgwood in Rome from 1787 under Flaxman’s supervision. He modelled six tablets illustrating the life of Achilles in 1788. A pen and wash drawing by Pacetti of Achilles on the back of Centaur hunting a Lion is in the Wedgwood Museum Barlaston. The source of the design was a classical marble the Luna Disc of c. 800-400 BC in the Capitoline Museum.’ (The Fitzwilliam Museum Cambridge Object No.C.36-1935)"

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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    That's exactly what's happening in that scene: Achilles is given to 'the good centaur' (the others are all lock up your daughters) Chiron for his education. I'm not familiar with a specific episode in that education that involves lion hunting, but that's obviously what's going on in the second scene.
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Quite a piece. I only have one book on Wedgwood & it doesn't show one exactly like this. What I do get from it is that this body shape may be called 'Trophy' & it would be said to be on a plinth. The lid seems to be not so common & makes it an urn instead of a vase.

    Other members have had good luck contacting the Wedgwood Museum:

    http://www.wedgwoodmuseum.org.uk/home
     
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  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Most of the similars I've seen are called covered urns. The Met calls these vases with covers. Wonder if they're meant to be displayed in pairs.

    Debora

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  13. Ision

    Ision Member

    Rare and expensive Wedgwood closed urn, made in the late 1700s, circa 1788, depicting the life of Achilles, by Pacetti for Wedgwood. Value would be in the thousands of dollars at auction. A small 9" dip vase, with edge chips, for this same pattern and year, sold in 2010 for over $3,555.00 dollars, for example.

    Have this item professionally appraised.
     
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  14. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    please show the mark at the bottom. and a closeup of the decoration so we can see clearly the raised decoration. also a picture from the inside of the vase is appreciated

    Edit: the blue color is odd.
     
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