Featured Joseph Milner drawing - London location?

Royal Academy of Arts Exhibition Catalog 1921

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Ditto. 1923.

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Ditto. 1938.

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Mary Milner was exhibiting sculpture there in 1955 and 1957. Given dates, likely a daughter.

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“Joseph Milner” appears in three RA EXhibitions catalogues: 1921, 1923 and 1938. You can google the catalogues, should be able to go straight to the PDFs. He might have had a female relative in Mary Milner, who is at the same address but appears to have been a sculptor.
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Lol— too late!

 

Here's a Mary Milner Dickens whose dates would fit.

https://www.royalmintmuseum.org.uk/journal/people/mary-milner-dickens/

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Thanks much to everyone. Looks like the attribution is good. The one with the station entrance has the same French language photo-copy as mine. Maybe owned by the same gallery at one point? Now if we could track down a location......

 

Not much more I can do than anyone else, which is to post a “noise reduced” version of the arch. Obviously ignore the section where I removed the crane— hopefully focussing on the brickwork itself will lead somewhere. My vote is with the south of England but if Milner was educated in Manchester he might have reason to visit north again. @Ownedbybear is brooding— time will tell.

 

I'm getting North East vibe.. Maybe Tyne and Wear like Newcastle or Sunderland. Lots of shipbuilding along the Tyne.
Couple cool links https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/lifestyle/nostalgia/gallery/shipbuilding-on-the-tyne-6481051
https://social.shorthand.com/elliey16/ngYywR9fIf/the-downfall-of-the-worlds-biggest-shipyard

 

You know... To the initiated, the scene would be readily identifiable I suspect. Perhaps a British shipbuilding expert could help. I did a quick internet browse and came up with this fellow. One can always ask.

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/paul-stott-80b795b9

His email address can be found on the internet.

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I really don't think it's a shipyard. Those look like our old London docks unloading cranes. The viaduct style could be LMS, could be Southern - both operated into London. I'm no crane espert though.

As to Milner, that road is in what is now the London Borough of Barnet. They have archives, which include electoral rolls. You could email and ask - https://www.barnet.gov.uk/libraries/local-studies-and-archives . I suspect they'd be rather interested.

The other source would be our census records, those are on Ancestry.

 

Irrelevant BUT: I grew up in Barnet, five minutes from the museum on Wood Street <3 wish I were there now, could pop in and ask!

 

I have spent a good bit of time looking at viaduct arches in England and have found none with brick work quite like this. Who knew there were so many? Have also looked at old photos of the docks of London with no success. I now doubt it is London. It may just be a fantasy arch in a fantasy drawing.

 

Brad, what are you not finding? It looks absolutely typical of a high level railway viaduct to me.

 

The interior brickwork and horizontal blocks at the edge are different than any I have seen.

 

I think it's a very distinctive scene and unlikely to be fantasy.

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I've seen blocks and bricks like that. Let me see if I can find any examples.