Featured 2 Beautiful Vases - Metal - I HAVE NO IDEA :p

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by R. Antonis, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    Hi everybody,

    I'm having some questions about these 2 vases.
    Well, I ONLY have questions.. there nothing I know about them.

    It's a beautiful pair of metal vases on a marble base, with cameo's.

    Dimensions:
    -Height: 39 cm/ 15,35 inch.
    -Diameter: 22 cm/ 8,66 inch.
    -Weight: 4 KG.

    I'd like to know their:
    -Age
    -Origin
    -Possible maker would be a plus.
    -Material: Metal? Bronze? Spelter?
    -Cameo's: Who are they?

    Any help is welcome!

    Thank you very much!
    R. Antonis

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  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    They look to be bronze,Id guess circa 1870s-80s or so,but Im no expert. I think the faces are just decorative, not any specific figure.They are very nice indeed.
     
  3. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    If it's indeed bronze, then what would make the color differences...
    Or is that just polish or something?
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Medusa is sometimes depicted with a winged face. Don't know about the bearded face, but Romans would put wings on just about anything.
     
  5. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    I thought, based on nothing, (maybe just the quality) that they would be French..
    Could anyone confirm that? Or are they Greek?
     
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  6. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    On the non bearded face, the nose is silver-y. Is that the color of the base metal, or is there some other kind of discoloration happening there? If the base metal is silver color - then you're probably looking at spelter, not bronze.
     
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  7. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    I'm affraid this is the base metal. See pictures.

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  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I don't think Cameo is the correct term for these, but I can't think at the moment what it should be.

    Lovely
     
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  9. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    Of course they're still beautiful, but
    Then maybe it would be just "portrait vases"?
    By the way.. cameo's, are that only the shell ones (+ the fakes) then?
     
  10. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Greek Revival?
     
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  11. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Wonder if the one with wings is supposed to be Mercury?
     
  12. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    I honestly had to google that, and I don't really understand what you mean.
    Do you just mean that they are greek style?
     
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes Greek style, but linked to the 19th century Historic Revival movement. There was Etruscan Revival, Egyptian Revival, Gothic Revival, etc. etc.
    I would call it Roman, rather than Greek.

    A cameo would be in a cartouche, and preferably of different material. Portrait would be a portrait of actual people, not Gods, etc. Can't think of the term for these either.
     
  14. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    You might try "bas relief" as a descriptor. Base metal with applied color patination.
     
  15. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    And could anybody tell me what the APPROX. value of a pair of spelter vases like these would be?
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Have you checked if there is a small signature on the base rim?
     
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  17. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    Yes I have checked that and they're not signed
     
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  18. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    I like them-original condition, great art & craftsmanship too. Find ballpark sale price by searching eBay sold items because asking or starting prices are worthless. If you decide to sell let me know when/where. This is the second item I've liked here this week and I usually go many weeks without liking anything here. Nice vases!
     
  19. buyingtime777

    buyingtime777 Well-Known Member

    I suspect they may be clock garnitures and originally accompanied an ornate , likely French, mantel clock.
     
  20. R. Antonis

    R. Antonis Well-Known Member

    I have tried to send you a personal message, but I'm not sure if I did it the right way though.
     
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