Pressed Glass Jar

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  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    IMG_1046.JPG IMG_1047.JPG Looking for the maker.
    Thanks
     
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  2. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    Columbia Glass, Findlay Ohio, 1890, Banquet, AKA Thumbprint Block. The etched blocks are not standard, usually bright.
     
  3. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
    Do you have a picture of the jar in your books? I can't find any images online.
     
  4. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    If you can find a copy of Columbia Glass, (probably privately printed) the line is there, I don't recognize the feet, so, no I don't think the jar itself is there. A piece or two is shown in Measell, Findlay Glass.
     
  5. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    IMG_1707.JPG IMG_1708.JPG The thumbprints are frosted that's why they don't look bright. I still can't find a match online.
     
  6. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    I'm Sorry not all data is on line.
     
  7. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Found a tiny picture on WorthPoint from June 30, 2013 with two other less desirable items included in the lot. There is a list of references used at the end of the description and a "Retail Value Estimate: $275-$325" (for this more commonly found, unfrosted jar alone, I presume, not including the two other items thrown in).
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    Retail Value Estimate: $275-$325
    Condition: VG-minor wear Weight: 6lb 4oz
    Measurements (LxWxH): 4.5 inches x 4.5 inches x 9 inches

    Have you already seen this @kardinalisimo ? I'm hoping the auction estimate might help you.

    I tried to track it down at liveauctioneers, but it doesn't seem to be in the archive. Rats!
     
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  8. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks a lot. So, they don't know who's the make either?
     
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  9. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    your ID was provided in the first response... it's a bit unrealistic to expect to always find an online confirmation...
     
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  10. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    TallCakes, I really appreciate your help in identifying the pattern and the maker.
    When the seller says "Referenced in Ruth Webb Lees books among others", does this mean the jar is just shown in the books but no maker is provided?
     
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  11. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    Columbia Glass by the Bredehofts and Sanfords lists but does not picture a cracker jar. Sometimes you need to go to the printed references to check the validity of an ID.
     
  12. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    I have no way to know what a seller may have intended in their listings about any particular references. Many references will show a single piece of a pattern or a sketch, and the authors may not have been aware that a particular pattern was also available in different colors or finishes (such as satin/frosted) at the time of their publications. That seller incorrectly describes the glass as uranium glass because it has a faint glow, which is actually due to the manganese content. A definitive reference of your specific piece from a catalog cut likely isn't known to exist at this time; so your left with the design is consistent with the ID as noted.
     
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  13. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    I meant to thank Cherryhill but TallCakes, George Nesmith, Lauragarnet and everyone else are highly appreciated as well.
    I try to stay away from pattern glass as my knowledge is very limited and the majority of the pieces sell relatively cheap. I'm trying to focus on the rare pieces but still you need to know which they are.
     
  14. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    Measell and Smith also refer to an aka of Thumbprint Block which may help your search.
     
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  15. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Found one of these jars with the frosted blocks, without maker attribution from a Feb. 20, 2008 eBay listing archived at Worthpoint. A long time ago, almost 10 years.
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    9 1/4" HIGH AND APPROX 5 1/2" ACROSS.
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    EAPG FROSTED THUMBPRINT 3 FOOTED CRACKER/BISCUIT JAR

    I'm just wondering, do you EAPG collectors and specialists see these footed jars fairly often at glass shows or antique stores?

    If the footed biscuit jars with frosted/satinized blocks are not mentioned or pictured in any of the EAPG books, and no pictures or descriptions of it in old catalogs or ads have ever been found or are known to exist, why is everyone so blasé? :joyful: I seem to be the only person here excited that one of our fellow boardies found one. Am I just goofy?
     
  16. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    With over 2,000 documented EAPG patterns different shapes or colors show up with fair regularity. Many of us do not know if the shape or pattern is unusual without rehearsing. Folks did pay attention and check around thus the ID and other information.
     
  17. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    FWIW EAPGpatterns has over 3,000 EAPG patterns represented.
    for the record, as EAPG this form is a cracker jar; biscuit jar is an English term...
    not so much blasé, but I only get a bit excited about cake stands...
     
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  18. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Jeez come on!
    Can't you make a decent guess?!?
    ;)
     
  19. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Lauragarnet, I think the sought after pieces not necessarily have to be the rarest ones. In a lot of cases they are but I guess the desirable pieces are just known among collectors and that's what sells good. Something may be hard to find but if it's not properly attributed by a reliable source and that source confirms it's a rare and hard to find piece, then probably won't be a lot of interest.
    I've listed the jar, so far no action. I think it will stay like that and exactly one of those pieces that don't come around often but nobody will fight for it either.
     
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  20. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    Kard, I believe you've made the right decision. We've acquired a few of the pieces, There are two versions. The other variety has one band around the base, not all over. That pattern is called No. 129 "C". They are both pretty patterns, quality glass, appreciated in Findlay Ohio where they were made and very little elsewhere. A few catalog pages exist, do not show your jar. They've not been published

    In Columbia Glass Co., 1886 - 1893, by Bredehoft and Sanford, Page 26, the list of Banquet pieces includes a "cracker Jar."
     
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