Featured Chinese Butterfly Plate. HOW OLD?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by vitry-le-francois, Aug 26, 2017.

  1. vitry-le-francois

    vitry-le-francois Well-Known Member

    I recently purchased a box lot of Chinese porcelain at a local auction. Got some good stuff from what I have been able to identify. However, this plate has no markings. I am assuming it is Chinese because all of the other items were as such. This has no markings. Any idea on the who/when/where/what & why? THANKS!

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  2. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    There is a pattern called Thousand Butterflies.
     
  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I think you are correct with Chinese attribution. I think the date is around 1880s.

    I'm basing this on 2 plates I had in a different pattern, with the same sort of base.
    Took them to an auction appraisal and that is what I was told. They also said, ladies from England would have dinnerware made in China and shipped home. Don't know how correct he was.
     
  4. vitry-le-francois

    vitry-le-francois Well-Known Member

    thanks for the info :)
     
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  5. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, Chinese, mid to late 19th century. Probably from Macao or nearby Canton/Guangdong.
    Ever since European trade with China and Japan, pieces were commisioned by Europeans. The first on the scene were, as ever, the Portuguese, ca 1513. The Dutch, who commisioned more than the others, followed in 1622. The British got their first trading post in 1672, in Taiwan. Taiwan, by the way, got it's European name Formosa from the Portuguese 'ilha formosa', which means beautiful island.
    Commisions would always go through the trade companies. Before 1858 English ladies (and gentlemen) would have put in an order with the British East India Company, which was nationalised in 1858. After that there were smaller trading agencies, regulated by the British government.
    Early European commisioned Chinese porcelain is called 'Chine de commande'. It has to be recognized as such, for instance through European coats of arms, European subjects, or styles that were particularly fashionable in Europe.
     
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  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    NO idea, but OH MY GOODNESS!!!!! HOW pretty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):):):):):):):)
     
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  8. LIbraryLady

    LIbraryLady Well-Known Member

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