Shallow Basketweave Bowls, Number 6, Factory?

I've had these bowls for a long while, and still haven't found out who made them. They have a crisply potted basketweave pattern, nice glaze, and rather primitive flowers which I think could have been painted by unskilled workers. On the back they are numbered 6. I think they are Staffordshire, circa 1820, so that would mean a factory starting to number its patterns, say 1815 - 1825 date range. Does anyone have any ideas, or shall they remain forever unattributed? Probably a minor factory, but someone treasured these enough to keep them unused for 200 years!

 

The number is more likely an internal code, such as a number assigned to the painter, who was paid by the piece.

 

I don't think they are Staffordshire.
Possibly German. Mid to late 1800s.
Only my Guess

 

I know that applies to some factories, but I can see that these are by different hands, due to differences in the shapes of the leaves etc. Not as evident from photos as it is in real life. Thanks for the input, though. The number is my only clue, so I don't want to lose it!

In order to keep my listing short I didn't mention that there is a photo of a matching teapot in Michael Berthoud's Directory of British Teapots, which if I remember correctly, identified it as Staffordshire, circa 1820, but alas Maker Unknown. What pointed you towards German? The flowers, moulding? The basketweave moulding was very popular in England at that time, with a number of makers including New Hall making tea and dessert sets with this attractive moulding. Thanks for your input, all suggestions welcome.

 

After looking up New Hall basketweave pottery, I can see that I am wrong.

 

possible english pearlware from 1820-1860, but the yellow collor is a bit odd. is the foot rim strait or outwards slanty?

although there were porcelain manufacturers who marked their porcelain with a number, your plate is not marked. Janetpjohn is right, the number was a hint for the porcelain manufacturer to find out who decorated which pieces and how much to get paid.

 

You might try the British Pottery and Porcelain Discussion Group on Facebook.

 

The flowers are very English. Auriculas, especially. If it isn't a piecewirk number it may be a shape number. Facebook group is a good one.

 

I misremembered

I misremembered, Berthoud has the date as circa 1825. The teapot he pictures would have been dated by the style, which he calls "Later London or Cottage Shape". I'm no good at identifying pastes - I really wish I was! - but Berthoud has described it as bone china, (and he should know), which I think I can see from their lightness and kind of glassy look. I think the camera exaggerated the difference in colours, but the yellower one must have been a different firing or time in the kiln, or composition of the glaze. The painter of the teapot (I'll add the picture below) looks more like the one on the right, with rounder leaves and more veins in the yellow flower, but it might be a third painter. Berthoud says the teapot has a pattern number 9, one of us must be reading the number upside down. Incidentally, Michael Berthoud's books on cups, teapots and creamers are all invaluable aids to identifying 18th and early 19th century china patterns, but they seem to have shot up in price recently, I wouldn't be able to afford them if I was buying them now! I'll also attach a photo of the base, which I tried and failed to do before. (You can also see the footrim in the photo showing the number.) Thanks for all your input!

 

Actually I recently joined that group and have already tried them! I got only one suggestion for a factory, Reid of Musselburgh in Scotland, which I would love to be the answer but I couldn't find anything quite like them amongst known pieces. I see I also misremembered the Staffordshire attribution, Berthoud doesn't say that so I must have just assumed it. I have a feeling these bowls may forever anonymous, at least until someone digs an old factory site and finds some similar sherds.