A question about my Chinese cloisonnés.

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Thomas 232, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. Thomas 232

    Thomas 232 New Member

    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg The smaller one cost more than the larger. I assumed they were the same but after a little bit of research I found that the smaller one must be older. Can any one confirm this? And does any one know why they are so similar but different?
     
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Could we see the bases please?
    What did your source say to prove it was older? They are pretty, but not antique.
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Cloisonné involves a fine metal wire being soldered onto a a metal piece to create “cloissons” or partitions. ... Champlevé starts life as a single piece of metal that is carved, stamped or cast to create depressions that can be filled with enamel powder.

    I see Champleve.......at best..
     
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  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    No, these are Chinese cloisonne and fairly typical.
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That could be because they are dark items against a dark background, but they are cloisonné. It is that style of cloisonné that was manufactured in great numbers in the second half of the 20th century.
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Sniped by blooey.;)
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ok.............so all those little clouds are soldered on wires.....
    or painted on????
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Soldered on.:)
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    i'm still learning..............:happy:
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

     
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  11. Thomas 232

    Thomas 232 New Member

    I read an article called "japanese vs chinese cloisonnes" and there was a small part about gilt being more worn the older they are, so I just assumed thats why they had the little one at a higher price .
     
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  12. Thomas 232

    Thomas 232 New Member

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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I don't see any wear, I think the smaller one just needs a gentle polish to bring out the gilding more. You could use a 'sunshine' polishing cloth.

    Thanks for the pic of the bases, they look pristine.
    The Chinese are still making this style, yours would have been made in the last 50 or so years. No great age, but cloisonné is pretty, even when brand new.
     
  14. Thomas 232

    Thomas 232 New Member

    Thank you!
     
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