From Rhode Island to the Panhandle of Florida

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by Civilgator, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. Civilgator

    Civilgator New Member

    Hello, I have some articles from my mother's family that have interesting stories, and I'm curious as to their actual identity. The china shown may be traced back to 1800's and family stories of it being older. I hear that it not having handles may support that.
    This is from Rhode Island.


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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Hi and welcome! Could you give a close up photo of the pattern and the base especially any marks? In addition could you give a side shot of the teabowls for a better idea of their shape?
     
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  3. Civilgator

    Civilgator New Member

    Thanks
    I'll get a close up, it will take a day. No marks on the bottom, I have a photo showing that on the next round. RGH
     
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  4. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    Welcome Civilgator ! .. Joy.
     
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  5. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Welcome!
     
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    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  7. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    A warm welcome to you!
     
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    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Greetings, Civilgator!
     
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  9. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Hi and WELCOME, Civilgator!!!
     
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  10. Civilgator

    Civilgator New Member

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  11. Civilgator

    Civilgator New Member

    Here are a some more photos, I may have uploaded thumbnail earlier.
     
  12. Civilgator

    Civilgator New Member

    Thanks for all the welcome posts. This seems like a good way to to learn about antiques.
     
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  13. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I first viewed your posting from my phone which didn't make it obvious which category you were posting in. I only mention that because many people will look at items if put in a category but miss them in introductions. So if no one else offers opinions on your pieces, try the Pottery, Glass and Porcelain category so more people might look in.

    I'm no expert but what I think is that the shapes of your teapot, tea bowls and creamer are consistent with circa 1830's transferware probably from Staffordshire. The pattern though, to my eye, looks a little free rather than the constrained patterns often seen in the time.

    I've given a little look through the books I have with Staffordshire transferware patterns and didn't see this one. Here is an article, written for archaeology in the US, that describe a bit about the time period of tea cups based on shape.

    http://www.jefpat.org/diagnostic/post-colonial ceramics/Cup Shapes/Essay on Cup & Bowl Shapes.pdf

    This is just a small excerpt about the date.

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    According to Robert Copeland, Bute shape cups were more popular in England than those of the London shape cups that were the most popular in the United States (Robert Copeland, personal communication). London shape cups do not become common on American sites until around the 1820s. By that time they began to replace common shape cups. Potters’ invoices for wares imported to America almost never mention the cup shapes, so the dates presented here are impressionistic. London/Grecian shape cups have not been seen in creamware or China glaze painted wares. They are very common on printed and painted pearlwares. This shape is clearly the dominant one used from ca. 1825 into the 1840s, when it begins to be replaced by double curve shape cups. This shape is rarely seen on white granite wares. Cups and bowls of the London shape can be found on the following wares with several types of decoration listed in Table 11.
     
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  14. Civilgator

    Civilgator New Member

    Thanks, Reading the article gave some identity as you alluded and gave me a lot of terms to become familiar with, both of which are good. I'll move it over to Pottery, Glass and Porcelain in a little bit.

    Thanks again
    RGH
     
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