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So sorry about your lab. Hope the little mutt won't keep you awake too much, and will be a good companion while you are coping with your loss.

Rosaries are/were only used when praying with a rosary. The rest of the time they are kept in a special pouch or box. Here is a photo of my mother's silver rosary and box, it dates from 1930. The little one with the pendant box is also an heirloom, antique, also silver. (just noticed one of the links had come undone, fixed it)

 

Thanks about our lab. She is missed. LittleDog is a sweet little thing and really is good company, just not terrorizing to the yard critters!

I was just looking at the rosaries and researching them a bit. I noticed the one that felt older, the non-French, refers to Pius IX. It looks like he ended his papacy in 1878. Would that date this rosary, or do popes continue to be referred to? I think the owner of it was born around then.

Your mothers rosaries are beautiful.

 

Certainly true as far as I know - but future historians may not find this a truism and may wonder at the wear on some rosaries. It is quite a fashion here in the States for people of a certain class/genre to wear rosaries as jewellery/necklaces. This is among young male Catholics, usually but not always of a Latin background, but most definitely started among gangs and other urban "organizations". It is spreading to popular culture, just as sagging pants (a sign that you had been incarcerated and by force could not wear a belt) did.

 

There has been a long process of over a century to try and get Pius IX beatified. Beatification is a stage before sainthood. He was finaly beatified in 2000. During this time the pro-beatification lobby would have symbols as if he was already beatified. It is like a political thing.

 

Just looking at the other rosary now...it has a 'Saint Mary of the Miraculous Medal' above the cross! I may be correct that the book and the newer rosary were purchased at the same time, in France, later in my guys life. I love sluething . Thank you again @Any Jewelry, you make me "feel" so smart!!!!

 

I blame Madonna.
I remember the fashion starting in the 80s, I think. People who wear gothic fashion also wear rosaries, black ones of course.

 

Okay, so not a good reference for dating :-(

 

I always find it odd that people use crucifixes as decorator items too. Makes me uncomfortable. That was a big thing here in Los Angeles for a while. Thankfully I think its waning.

 

I think your Saint Mary is a canopy over the M (Mary) and cross. Lack of sleep makes a canopy into a saint, I guess.

 

Yes, I feel the same way.

 

It makes me kind of sad; on the one hand it's almost a mockery of what that crucifix is supposed to be, and on the other it kept it out of the dumpster. A man (theology omitted) died a horrible death...and someone is using a representation of that sacrifice as decoration...ick. I have one crucifix pendant that I do wear; it's brass and a copy of something older than dirt, I've never been able to figure out what but probably pre-1000AD. On the other hand, I have no problem wearing Jewish religious jewelry, so go figure.

 

I was looking at the M with the cross through it and hearts below it..that does look like a canopy over the whole thing ;-)

 

I am reminded of a local politician who was ranting over some local Muslim girls and their choice of religious headgear. Her point was that no one need "advertise" their religious beliefs.............all the while her gold crucifix dangled just above her decollete...............

 

@Mansons2005

Never knew that was the origin of the saggy drawers look.
Wonders never cease...

 

Shower shoes with socks? Again, a jail/prison ban of shoe laces, started per force among the gang culture that devolved down to the white middle classes.

Ankle socks? originally worn by those criminals with home monitoring anklets............again devolved down to the white middle classes.

As with many things that become part of common culture, the origins and obscure meanings are not taken into account when they are adopted by those who just wish to be "in"............

 

The slang moves around too. Things move into common speech and the origins disappear into the mists of time.

 

Language and slang in particular were a source of division in the academic world of Social Anthropology when I was at university. I had a prof at Oxford who swore by the use of slang in dating and defining some cultural history. As well, I had a prof at Harvard who declared that slang was too common and unchanging and was by definition not helpful, or at the least not conclusive, in dating cultural history.

Its amazing that BOTH used the example of the word Hello as a common, spoken greeting - vulgar and unacceptable in most societies, now a completely acceptable word anywhere, in almost any situation (partially fueled by the telephone).

The other example is the word Okay. Not socially acceptable in England/Europe for centuries within any class - once used by the lower classes in the US it quickly came into use almost universally. Though I personally detest BOTH Okay and hello as unimaginative and pedestrian.

 

These days, Hello has been replaced with the even less acceptable "Yo". I've been known to answer the phone with "meow", depending on who's on the other end. It's a sign of my cat-influenced childhood.

 

I answer the phone with the surname name that is associated with that particular phone - unless of course i know the caller and I wish to be cute - or nasty...............

 

No, no pouch.
Mine was not in good condition. The silver plating was badly worn in the center on all pages. Whoever owned it, must have said a lot of prayers to the different patrons.
Mine was copper, not brass under the plating. Clearly showed through.
No chain, a bent jump ring on a bent bale (is that the correct word?)
Didn't quite close properly.

$32.95 plus tx.