Featured Das Farbige Malerbuch 1901

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  1. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So it went from P. Knauerhase to Walter Hase and on to H. Sonnabend.
    Secessionist was a Viennese, Austrian movement, Germany had Jugendstil and Bauhaus.
     
  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    What is the nature of the plates? Are they chromolithographs? How large are they?

    This looks like a German equivalent of Owen Jones' "Grammar of Ornament".

    Books of this type were popular in the late 19th and early 20th C. I found an example online identified as 3rd revised edition 1899. It's also described as 2 vols: the first text with minimal illustration, the second primarily plates. That's not all that unusual for heavily illustrated reference books of the period.

    A Google translation of the reference I found includes the phrase "112 full panels (= 224 pages with one side, often with several detailed representations)", which only makes sense to me if they are fold-outs. If that is true, they would be big.

    Your cover includes the phrase "Erganzung zu Eyth und Meyers", which means "compliments of..." That seems a strange choice of words. I wonder if this might have been promotional material for a new edition.
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but I strongly disagree with breaking up folio. It appears to be rare and a unique resource for those interested in the period's decoration. The fact that it has been reprinted shows there would be interest.

    Debora
     
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  4. Rayfriend

    Rayfriend New Member

    Thank you everyone for your research into who owned the book and who sold it. Really interesting to delve deeper into the history of the book and imagine the characters who handled it years ago.

    Debora, I have been thinking the same thing and that it would be sad to break up the book. What then would happen to the cover? I'm not a dealer and it would take me a long time to list all of the prints online. I was thinking of putting it on eBay but I just can't put a value on the whole thing. Any suggestions, anyone?

    Moreotherstuff, how would I be able to identify if they're chromolithographs? (novice here). The book is quite large, close to A3 size, so the prints are a good size too. I looked up Grammar of Ornament and I'd say they're definitely similar. Thank you for looking into it for me, I'm finding everyone's research and discoveries really interesting.
     
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  5. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    If you can get a good, sharp, and very close detail of one of the plates, it might help to identify the type of print. I don't think there were that many options for color printing back then.

    Here's an example of the type of regular dot matrix that you hope not to see:
    z.jpg

    The size of your book is consistent with that of the earlier edition.

    Interesting that the word "farbige" (colored) is included in the title. Maybe this is a first full color edition? A mass market version of an earlier, grander book? All I've got are conjectures.
     
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  6. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    The Graphics Atlas is a good source for identifying a wide variety of types of prints. It's one of my favorite sites, put together by the Image Permanence Institute:

    http://www.graphicsatlas.org/

    If you delve into the Identification and the Compare areas, you'll even see magnification, and have information to help distinguish between different types of prints.

    Too bad that Pat hasn't come here for a while. I believe that she might have had some books of this type, too.
     
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Sad ?
    What's sad?
    That only one person gets to enjoy these beautiful works....in a box or on a shelf, instead of 90 people framing them and displaying them in their homes.!
    That's sad ?
    Stick around here a while and you'll see more odds & ends of sets of metal , wood, paper , glass, jewelry, dinner ware , carvings, serving pieces......and the list goes on & on !!

    As for a value......set your own price , sit back and wait......if it's too low it'll sell out fast....if it's too high......it'll sit there until you come down enough to interest someone............who'll break up the set and profit by selling them a few at a time !
     
  8. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    If these are chromos, they may be worth listing individually. If they are photomechanical, then they won't be worth it. I've searched the name, and I'm not seeing individual plates from this work being listed... which I would expect to see if anyone felt they had sufficient collectible or decorative value.
     
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  9. Rayfriend

    Rayfriend New Member

    Thank you Figtree3 for that link! I'm looking into it now. Komokwa, I do see your point. I think each page is beautiful and very framable. I think my main concern was what would come of the cover if I sold off all of the prints individually. Moreotherstuff, I've taken some photos of a few prints selected at random, up close to show you on here. One of them (the bird) if zoomed in very close up has that spotty look possibly? The other two definitely not. I'm still not sure what type of printing process was used but to the naked eye they're very high quality and would definitely look good in a frame:

    [​IMG]Malerbuch Plates by Rachel Brown, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Malerbuch Plates by Rachel Brown, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Malerbuch Plates by Rachel Brown, on Flickr
     
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  10. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    It does look like a dot matrix, so not chromos. Have these plates been trimmed?

    The problem is that modern reissues of this book will probably have prints as good or better than your copy. Someone who wants the pictures can buy the reprint for what? Used for less than Eur 15.00. Then they get all the plates for a fraction of a euro each.

    I don't think it's advisable to try to sell your plates as individual prints.
     
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