Featured nice miniature frames and paintings inside

so i finally found a frame for my miniature portrait plaque, its taken ages to find

i had to buy both as they were being sold together

took them apart to clean them up a tad

not cheap either £50 for the pair

but they are complete with original bubble glass and backing.

i couldnt see the pictures inside them online really so took a gamble.

im pretty sure they are hand painted though now, maybe on celluloid or such

not sure if they are the decorational type, or maybe a bit better

any thoughts appreciated

 

ketchup by the way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Pauline may be on ivory. The other is also some famous beauty.

 

thanks bronwen, that did cross my mind as well, the grain looks a bit un uniform for celluloid

 

Exactly. Ivory is heavier than Celluloid of the same size. Part of me is wondering if it is trompe l'oeil. You should see what Piat Joseph Sauvage & his circle could do with paint.

 

THIS IMAGE is TROMPE????????????? WOW!!!!!!!!!

 

Yes. This is ivory:

 

Such fat, funny fellows, aren't they?

Debora

 

I love this so much, I feel only the slightest twinges over its being ivory. (It's a good sized cross section.) An auctioneer would describe it as in the manner of Duquesnoy, an 18th century figure. No provenance but underneath I found a paper form indicating it had professional attention - could have been cleaning - sometime in the 1930s. Don't know if that counts as documentation. I'm not selling anyway.

When researching it I came across another, almost exactly the same size, in a sold listing from a London dealer, that looks like the 'before' image to my guys' 'after':

 

Pauline Borghese was born Pauline Bonaparte. The second figure strikes me as being out of the Napoleonic court, or that era.

 

A tad earlier, I'd think. Georgian if English or equivalent period of elsewhere European. Napoleonic court associated with empire waist.

Debora

 

Think this is the original of the Borghese with license? 'The Beautiful Greek." Simon Counis. Uffizi.

Debora

 

Can't quite see this.
Maybe Kupersky

 

Agree that it is hand painted on ivory.

What do you see here?

 

Hi cc

One is very indistinct Raub ?

The other one is quite legible actually I think Kucharaky

 

Looks quite similar

https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Miniature-portrait-of-Louis-XVII-of-Fran/6860BFB613DFBE31

 

Like the one above I think mine is Victorian ? copy of a Alexander Kucharsky painting

 

I'd think the short years of Napoleon's reigns fall well within the period called Georgian in Britain. Or Regency, if you like. In cameos, they are Victorian or they are Georgian; almost never see one called Regency, even though shell cameos were just starting to come into fashion then, thanks to Napoleon, et al.

Do we know the dress of the second lady does not have an empire waist? The hair ribbon is also a fashion of the period.

 

Interesting. I use Georgian, Regency and Victorian (early, mid-, late.)

Debora

 

What was the period of William's reign called? No one ever mentions him. Guillian?