Who made this "Capodimonte" Charger?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by moontymes, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. moontymes

    moontymes Well-Known Member

    There is an old label affixed to the bottom of this charger that says Capodimonte, but we all know that there were many copiers. This charger has a crown and underneath that "RE" in underglaze blue. I have no doubt that it's old but it looks more German to me than true Italian Capodimonte. Anyone recognize this mark? Thanks.

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  2. moontymes

    moontymes Well-Known Member

    Aagh, I can't get them turned right side up. But, no thoughts on this charger?
     
  3. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

    Not sure who your plate's maker is, but the center subject matter is a rendering after Raphael's: The Triumph of Galatea.

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  4. 'Nuff_Said

    'Nuff_Said Well-Known Member

  5. moontymes

    moontymes Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much for that info, Nuff. That will be a big help to me when I list. I knew that scene looked familiar! I have not been able to find the mark either, even after searching for it for an hour or more yesterday. It looks so similar to a Dresden tumbler I bought last week that I am inclined to think it might be German. But again, I can't verify because that mark is nowhere.to.be.found on the net. I sent a photo of it to my auction house contact. If he finds out I'll let everyone know.
     
  6. moontymes

    moontymes Well-Known Member

    Guess what? Walter on the ebay boards identified this as a true Capodimonte (Circa 1780) charger. The second "real" one he's ever seen posted. I wasn't expecting that! :)
     
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  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Congrats! Are there flaws in the ceramic or glaze under the tiny insects?
     
  8. trip98

    trip98 Well-Known Member

  9. moontymes

    moontymes Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys. moreotherstuff, I'm not sure where the flaws by the insects are that you're talking about, but it's in really good condition.
     
  10. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    In the 18th C, of course they lacked the controls that are in place today in the manufacturing of porcelain. Try as they might, little flaws would 'get through' - bits of grit in the clay, bits of ash from the kiln. They took to painting tiny little insects on top of those flaws to hide them. Pretty much all the makers had the same problems. It can help to date the porcelain. It's expected.

    I think if that's true Capodimonte, you should probably run it by a good auction house.
     
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  11. moontymes

    moontymes Well-Known Member

    I had never heard that about the bugs and the flaws....very interesting! Unfortunately I can't look at it now...it's already been sent to an auction house.
     
  12. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Wow, that is exciting! Hope it goes through the roof for you:happy:
     
  13. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

  14. moontymes

    moontymes Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much! :)
     
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