Some antique Victorian? clothing, help please

My guess for this first one is Victorian mourning dress? IDK The beads are all hand sewn. The left shoulder has 4 snap buttons that open up to another short lining. The dress appears to be all hand sewn as well. Your thoughts??!! Thanks for your time.
I have a few more clothing items to ask about, so will be back shortly.

 

It looks later than Victorian to me. Early 20th century, but I also might be wrong.

 

It appears more flapper era to me than an earlier piece (lack of structure etc). Pre 30s though as after that you'd likely see a zipper verses snaps. It appears quite delicate with seams that are split. Because of the weight of the beads on on the fabric it would be best not to store this on a hanger.

 

Thanks Fig!

 

Great info Dawn, thank you so much. It is very delicate, I wasn't sure what to call the fabric.

 

A few more here. Need help with the one on the left & right, I know the center is a petticoat. What are these pant type things on the right side? The crotch area is completely open?
The piece on the left...is it a coat of some sort?
Thanks again for the help & your time.

 

The piece on the right,arent those Bloomers ?

 

Thanks so much Johnny, yes I was just browsing this sight, and it seems they are some type of bloomer or drawers.
http://www.katetattersall.com/early-victorian-undergarments-part-4-pantelettes-pantalettes/
I remember my grandpa always using the term drawers, and it always made me laugh...memories!

 

The "open drawer" pattern is still in use today. Not here perhaps, but in Asia, small children have the same design. The coat-like garment has a specific name which is buried too deep in the little grey cells to reach at the moment...

Assuming that the pantaloons are that old, somewhat heavy cotton, they can be gently bleached.

 

OK. What I was mulling about was the word "redingote," or. alternatively, "polonaise." The former term seems to be more or less restricted to the 18th century. Polonaise was in use early in the 20th century -- although I still think there is another term...

Your coat looks similar to those worn over the hobble skirts of the nineteen-teens. (JMHO)

 

Yep - with long skirts and petticoats, there was no need to sew up the "centre seam"..................very convenient for some functions...................three that come to mind immediately...................

 

Thanks so much silverthwaite! That's a wonderful help.

 

oh goody....frilly underthings.....!!!

 

I thought I replied, but I was logged out for some reason! The first black one appears to be late teens early 20's. The gold dress looks earlier, around 1910.

 

Thanks so much Sevastras, very kind and helpful.

 

You know... the gold-colored jacket appears to have quite a bit of gathered fabric in back. Do you think it was meant to be worn with a bustle? That would make it late Victorian. Not quite the same proportions of this example but.. just for the idea.

Debora

 

I should think that the open flap on the black dress is for "feeding"!

 

For the skirt and bloomers....You can clean them in very hot water with half a box or so of denture cleaner tablets thrown in. Let them soak and you will wake up the next morning and see them stain free. It's easier on the pieces than bleach and much more effective. Gently rinse and wash with a baby soap after clean. Do not let the weight of the wet fabric hang..lay them on a rack to dry. This only works on white or ivory natural fabrics like linen or cotton. Do not try this with silk. Died fabrics will lose their color using this technique as well so if there is any embroidery etc in color...don't do this.

 

I was wondering the same.