Need help dating/valuing this watch...from the boxes!

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  1. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    IMG_7647.JPG IMG_7648.JPG IMG_7649.JPG IMG_7650.JPG Hello, I'm back asking for help! I hope I'm not wearing out my welcome! You've all been so helpful. Really, I'm only asking for help on one out of 50 things probably. Going through the boxes is like constantly opening presents! It's pretty cool.

    I've starting to go through some boxes I'd opened before to access stuff more carefully. I can't find much on this watch. The watchmaker seems to be a good one though. It was in the collection that's been mostly from the 1910 - 1950 time period.

    What I know:

    Lederer face
    Normandie works
    Seven jewel

    As always, thank you for any help!
     
  2. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    Sorry for posting the photos before the text!!! More coffee please... :bag:
     
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  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    1930s or 1950s lady's pendant fob watch, very basic quality. Swiss made, almost certainly.
     
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    No no...that's OK !
    It's the guys that post the text with no photo's .....that scratch our chiggers !

    That's a cute little ladies watch !
     
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  5. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the leeway (Sipping coffee) @komokwa! I thought about switching it around and couldn't handle that either! Need to get out to the pottery studio to work on an order and am dawdling...rather do this sluething right now!
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    But isn't the studio so Zen....where you can free your mind while your hands work their magic ...? :happy::happy:
     
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  7. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    Yahhh....that's it. When I'm not filling wholesale orders, it's very zen. Actually, it's even a little zen out there then too. Its a pretty nice space. I think I'm just getting old and grumpy. Semi-retired. Wanna do what I wanna do!
     
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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Sorry but... that lanyard doesn't look to be from the 1930s-1950s period. To my eye it looks just before/just after start of wrist watch era.

    Debora
     
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  9. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    I'm seeing lots of references to a Lederer family in NYC in the early to mid 1900's. Sigmund Lederer has lots of patents related to watches. Normandie shows up during WWII quite a bit...
     
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  10. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    Thanks, @Debora. When did wristwatches come into style?
     
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  11. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    Looks like around the 20's wristwatches became more mainstream...post WWI?
     
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  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Mainly military usage pre. Mass market post.

    Debora
     
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  13. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    If it is not marked, it most likely rolled gold. (a thicker plating process).
    The lanyard clips (#1) look 20s-30s. So it could have be the lanyard was not original to the watch. Also the ring (#2) is thicker.


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    Looking again.
    The lanyard may actually be a necklace. Might be more 1900s - 20.
     
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  14. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    I was thinking something similar about the lanyard not being original. I kept trying to get it to hang correctly/neatly and I couldn't. I didn't notice the rings were two different sizes! There is a pretty gold watch chain in the same box. I'll check to see if that makes any sense later. The watch has such a small face, I can't imagine trying to read it if it wasn't a pendant. Although that may be my personal problem :watching:
     
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  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I suspect the watch originally hung from a brooch.
     
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  16. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    This looks even worse! There are other watch chains in the boxes, but this was in the same box...thought maybe, but nooooo...

    I'm liking @Ownedbybear's idea about it being on a brooch. A person would have a chance of reading it then!
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  17. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It was quite common: a little bow brooch typically.
     
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  18. Melissa Brown

    Melissa Brown Well-Known Member

    I'll look for one! Thanks!
     
  19. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    The lady's ball pendant watches seem to sell OK even though they're not much of a quality watch. It would sell about the same with or without a chain.

    Were it for a brooch, the face would be oriented 180 degrees differently.
     
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  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The ones I own are oriented that way - upside down, so you can flip them up to read.
     
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