HOW DO I TELL IF IT'S A ORIGINAL (1930s ish) OR A NEW LOUIS ICART PRINT?

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  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I found this Icart print today at my local thrift store, it is stamped Le Panier de Pommes by Louis Icart, Published by Morris & Bendien.

    I found a similar one - titled Young Girl With Apple Basket on Ruby Lane that is the same size (14 1/2" x 18") as mine, and is described as:

    original old paper etching print "Le Panier De Pommes," by Louis Icart and Published by Morris & Bendien, Inc., New York.

    Is mine an original old paper etching/print or a modern reprint - since the size is the same (don't know any other way to tell difference)?

    It also has the raised edge around it where plate was pressed into paper; it's not just a copy/litho.

    Thanks, I appreciate any help.
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  2. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'm betting it's original; just the frame is newer. I'm guessing some gentleman had this on a wall somewhere.

    The lady is...perky looking.(LOL)
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I think the message is that her breasts are firm and ripe like fresh picked apples.....& I'd agree with Louis........:rolleyes:

    Oh ya...& dots.....so .. a print.
     
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  5. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    Looks to be a modern print. Edge on paper looks to be pretty white still with no sign of age. Probably just for decorationall use
     
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  6. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    Also I zoomed in on of your images and you can clearly see dots
     
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  7. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I know it's a print - how do you tell if old or new; or can you without taking it out of glass & frame?
     
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  8. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    O T M !!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::happy::happy::happy:
     
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    You'll have to drill down into the company history....seems they made a lot of prints in the early 1900's......
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Are you sure it is not for educational use?:angelic:
     
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  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps an apple pie recipe? Or more likely apple sauce!
     
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  12. Mark London

    Mark London Well-Known Member

    I think that people actually are trying to tell you that it is a reproduction rather than an original etching
     
  13. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    If it has the raised edge where plate was pressed into the paper rather than just a smooth surface like a new litho/print, does that not indicate age? (asking because there is a big difference in value!)
     
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  14. Mark London

    Mark London Well-Known Member

    This is an offset litho..the valuable Icarts are the etchings which are usually hand signed. 154.jpg
     
  15. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    A plate mark is not a guarantee that a print is old, nor is it a guarantee that a print is an etching or engraving. Your print looks to me like a photo-mechanical reproduction (because of the dot matrix patterning) with a decorative plate mark added for a touch more "realism". I think that in this context the plate mark is just a bit of added embossing and has nothing to do with the printing of the image.
     
  16. Msalicia

    Msalicia Well-Known Member

    What does OTM mean? I’m getting a grasp on “Antiques’s lingo” slowly but surely, and it’s early for me here, not enough coffee to think that fast so could you fill me in please? The faces indicate funny.
     
  17. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I think it usually means on the money but could be something else.
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Google tells me it is Oman Travel Market, and as we know, google is always right.:joyful:
     
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  19. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Urban Dictionary says
    “Owning the Moment“
    Investopedia says
    “Out of the Money”
    :hilarious:
     
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    Pat Dennis Active Member

     
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