Vintage enamel identity Bracelet, Military? WRENS?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by madstacks, Apr 28, 2017.

  1. madstacks

    madstacks New Member

    Hi all, I have had this bracelet for years in a draw and forgot it and dont know anything about it..Does anyone know if this is military? the code on the back made me wonder.

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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    How very interesting. Not military, I think, I can't think of a British unit that would abbreviate to that. Victorian, almost certainly, from the address style and type face. I wonder if it was an early equivalent of a Medic Alert bracelet!

    Let me have a think about OMDT.
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Looks to be a World War II civilian I.D. bracelet. Very common at the time, for reasons that are obvious.

    Debora
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Not with that address style it isn't.
     
  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    How so, OBB??????
     
  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    We were starting to get postcode precursors by WW2 for one thing. And the county is missing too.

    And, it's quite wrong to say that silver civilian ID bracelets were common here. They weren't. None of my female relatives had them, although some might just about have afforded it -the vast majority of Brits could not have. That would have been an expensive piece of jewellery, and also one that companies were dissuaded from making. Silversmiths in the Birmigham heartland of the industry were on war work - until the city got bombed so badly, anyhow.

    Given the presumed weight of that thing, if it were as late as WW2 AND if it had been made here, it ought to have full hallmarks, too. So, it either isn't British - someone bought it abroad and had it engraved - and/or it's earlier.

    I'm still working on that abbreviation. ;)
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Interestingly, Smethwick was bombed on numerous occasions by the Luftwaffe during World War II and 80 civilians died in the air raids.

    Debora
     
  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Here's Slatch House Road. The estate was built in 1924.

    Debora

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  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It's now a suburb of Birmingham which was bombed to smithereens as an industrial centre. As a dormitory town, the bombs which fell there were either misaimed or jettisoned. Very common. Eighty is actually pretty light. It looks like between the wars municipal housing, so working class.

    My grandfather, in his 70s by then, was a fireman in the London Blitz. Ma, an actress, in central London all the time, inlcuding dousing incendiary bombs on the roof of her theatre with a stirrup pump and water. London still finds bombs often, there was one not that far away in the last few weeks.

    Blokes here didn't do the bracelet thing until much later - it's terribly 1960s. The popular sweetheart item here was always a brooch for women, I see them by the hundred. They go way back, but the most common WW2 ones seem to be RAF. Some silver but a great many in mass produce brass and enamel.

    Don't think I've ever come across a civilian ID bracelet - and there's one other thing about this. If it were that, it ought to have the ID card number engraved.
     
  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Its not military, its too fancy, I don`t recognise the OMDT.
    Not a civilian war ID either, they didn`t exist.
    Are there any hallmarks on the chain links ?
     
  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    davey, I think the bracelet itself is either foreign or possibly late 19th/early 20th, maybe into the 20s. Some Brit stuff was simply marked SILVER then.

    And indeed, no such thing as a civvie ID bracelet. I'm wondering if it was some kind of women's group.
     
  13. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  14. Calico

    Calico Well-Known Member

  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  16. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    My mother was 15 at the outbreak of WWII, she had 4 younger sisters and an elder brother.
    Non were evacuated to safer places and non had ID bracelets although they did carry gas masks.

    Evacuated kids had their name on a large label hanging around their necks.

    Mum worked at the Metal Box Company making shells and jerry cans for the war effort from 1939 to 1945.
    They were bombed out of two homes losing everything they possessed in a 3 year period.

    Non of them became refugees, they stayed and fought.

    92% of the city`s housing was destroyed.

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  17. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Well, none of my family had IDs either - the other grandfather was ARP, and they certainly weren't issued with them. That carded one looks like a commercial product.

    I've read a great many memoirs of evacuees, no mention of any ID bracelet, and it certainly doesn't seem to have featured in any of the many dramas on the subject.
     
  18. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    . Public records show that Albert Edward Hubbard Medley married Maud M. Crisp in July-Sept. 1931. They evidently had two children, Louis E. Medley born 1932 and Cyril Medley born 1938. Maud died in 1953
    Shiregreen, Sheffield, Yorkshire.
     
  19. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    But the engraving says "Mrs. Maud M. Crisp," Davey.
     
  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Davey, that can't be the same person? If you look at the bracelet, it says MRS. Unless. Was Mr Medley her second husband?
     
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