Featured OK, I give up - Austrian or ???? silver marks? Antique bracelet

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by evelyb30, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The glass stones and styling of the bracelet say Czech or Austro-Hungarian. The marks are... bitty. I think the diamond has an R and a K above and below a circled c. These shots were taken under a 40x loupe.
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  2. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That's one reason I'm scratching my head. That mark looked kind of French, but those cross-hatched things look like something the Germans would have done, and the others are kind of Portuguese .... and the stones look straight-up Czech. So...?
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous Citedine bracelet, evelyb.
    Uhmmmm, no, they don't.:sorry:They just whispered North African Citedine (city style) to me.:playful: Morocco would be my first guess, but I will check. Citedine has European influence as well as Moorish.
    I can see how you thought those bezels with the twisted band around the base could be Austrian, but those are quite generic.
    Many North African silversmiths used the French lozenge shape.

    And.... get your gemstone tester out.:)
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Could you clean the bits where the first two marks are and take pics? I wonder if those marks are the 1925 ram's head.
    The last, sort of rounded marks would be local marks. I have no info on those, but you see them on a lot of Moroccan jewellery.
     
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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The stones are definitely glass. I looked up Moroccan and Citadine and... sure looks like it.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Found it! .800 Moroccan import mark. If it's an import, no wonder the marks were a mushel. 1925 and later.
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So it's the vulture? I thought maybe the ram. If it is an import, it was made in one of the neighbours to the east, Algeria or Tunisia.
     
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  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I was wondering if it wasn't made in France for the Moroccan market, but those hinges aren't French. Algeria makes more sense with that sort-of French mark on there. And yes, vulture.
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    France did manufacture for the North African market, but those roundish marks with the cross-hatching couldn't be more North African if they tried.;)

    The decoration on this style is very detailed, but not as flamboyant as Austro-Hungarian. The Austro-Hungarian Historic Revival style goes overboard in a wild Central European frenzy of Baroque and Renaissance.
    The Citedine European inspired style is more constrained.
    The European influence comes mainly from ethnic Italian silversmiths who settled in North Africa centuries ago. It had to blend in with Citedine taste, which is opulent, but never ott in design.
    The North African Italian culture became a creole culture, mixed with Moorish (=Berber-Arab mix) and Jewish. They became North African to such an extent that many Italian Tunisians spoke French and Arabic, not Italian.
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Very different style though, more Berber influence. The pinkish stones are simply faux rubies. Rubies (or faux) were often worn by brides.
    There were also fancier ones with real rubies, like this one which I love but which is near impossible to wear because the butterfly shape is too heavy to stay in place:
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  14. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Love it!!! Superb, even if not easy to wear it deserves admiration
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :kiss:
    It is one of my (many) favourites.:happy:
     
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  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'd wear that if I had it too. It's even OK to wear now; silver eats bugs!
     
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