Can anyone help with this plate please?

Hi all,

Another of my auction finds here. I bought a "lucky dip" box at auction yesterday with some Poole pottery in it which I had spotted but there was also these 2 plates. I cannot find any similar on google or ebay but the pattern looks family to me.

Can anyone tell me what country they are from and a rough age on them please? The reason I am asking is because one of the plates is in good condition but the other has been fixed by stapling sometime in the past, it is a very old fix by the looks of it and I was thinking why would anyone go to the trouble of fixing a plate if it was just an everyday plate, could it of been more of a luxury plate at the time it was broken I am thinking.

They are handpainted and made of porcelain but don't have any makers marks on them at all. If I put them up to the light I can see the pattern through them from the back of the plate. They measures 9 1/2 inches across.

Thanking you in advance.

 

English in what's called the Imari pallette. Early to mid 19th C and almost impossible to attribute to a factory. Someone did indeed treasure them.

 

Thank you for your very fast reply and information, that answers everything I wanted to know. I quite like them actually and might display them. All the best and thanks again.

 

Most welcome. I really like staple repairs, I've a huge piece of old cut glass done that way.

 

I know what you mean, in a way the fixed plate is more interesting than the good one. One of staples has fell out over time and the holes are so tiny, it means that the ends of the staple must of been tapered, no way could I even attempt such a delicate repair and bearing in mind it had to be strong as well. Very skilled indeed.

I just said to my wife that I may start collecting stapled porcelain/pottery because it's interesting and different.....I think by saying that I am one step nearer to her having me committed

 

only if you're committed ...to your collection !

 

Oooo , that is very good wordplay indeed

 

Allergy warning. This answer contains peanuts. Oops, so does the warning.

I sympatise with your feelings about staple repairs. They are a sign of life after death for the stapled object, and usually they reduce the price to very little without in my opinion spoiling the item. They do enable people to buy what would be expensive and rare items for peanuts, which has to be good.


I have always been willing to give houseroom to less than perfect stuff because I am not planning on selling it. It is stuff to keep. Stuff to sell, different matter, the 65th time of mentioning something has a flaw and seeing the buyer walk away is a good cure for buying the less than perfect for resale.

I figure you can always turn the flawed side to the wall, and I am not the sort of person who that little flaw would cause heartache and eventual death.

So long live the staples, I say. I really have no idea how it was done or what it would have cost at the time, does anyone know?

 

I think I may to go into therapy. When I look at this plate I see a scary bird flying over a haunted forest!
Don

 

Yes I agree with AF's comments entirely, in fact the more I think about it the more I might actually start collecting stapled pieces, as you say, it is a cheap way of owning more "exotic" pieces and if I have no intention of selling them on for profit then it's all on the upside side surely.

It is strange that you say that DG, I saw that as well, a freaky tree house in a forest being swooped on by a freaky bird.....there is your evidence of opium use in the workplace in the early 19th century surely??

 

Starting from the stars, I see a sheriff's deputy horse and his sheriff deputy hiding from a Chinese dragon

 

Really, im looking hard but can't see that, that is some imagination you have there AF.........or is it we are also seeing early 21st century opium usage in the digital age 200 years on in a sort of "things never change" type of way

 

It just that I have the mind of a child.

In a jar by the bed connected to me by wires......

 

There's a plate like this on pinterest I found with an image search. The seller creatively called it Hollow Rock and Phoenix. Can you see me scratching my head?

 

Oh....don't worry.......I see a guy with a branch sticking out his arse...getting it on with a moose that has short antlers.......

so, .....now who needs a shrink ???

 

I see an escapee from a Dr Who episode as rendered by someone with too much exposure to the space/time vortex.

I like repaired pieces too, btw, including jewelry. It shows someone cared about whatever it was. I still have a gold-filled bangle that was made of a hollow piece of metal. It has a karat gold repair inside where the owner who originally had it wore it clean through. The repair is the best part.

 

I see an owl...with twiggy hands...

 

Oh no...I can see all of those images in the plate, and now, unfortunately, I can't "un-see" at least one of them!

 

HahHaHaHa !!!!!!!!!!!
thanx...