Need help ID the age of this Chines Wucai Ming vase

Hi, can anyone tell me anything about this Chines garlic head Ming vases thank you

 

Hi, please always use Full Image when posting photos. Thanks!

https://www.antiquers.com/threads/posting-a-thread-and-uploading-pictures.15990/#post-222168

You can still click on "Edit" and go back into the listing and click on "insert every photo as FULL IMAGE", but good to get into the habit of doing it right when you upload. Thanks!

 

Hi manny, welcome.

A very important clue as to whether something is Ming porcelain is the base. Here are some pictures of Ming Wucai bases:





Your vases are very nice but not Ming.

 

Well those vases are nice but are from Ebay and the price on them tells thank you anyway

 

how much did you pay for yours ?

 

Do you mean yours are from Ebay? The vases I showed were from auction houses.

 

Well it's easy to find the vases you show me just google the name and go to image it show not just one image but many, the same one and if you think they are from the period you can buy them as they are still on eBay for sell thank you anyway

 

Just checked on eBay, couldn't find them, not that I want to turn this into an eBay show.
Of course I look online for examples to show you, that way I can show you a picture, but if you prefer I'll look in my books and photograph the descriptions for you. That will take some time, though, if you are willing to wait that long.
What I meant to point out is the rim on the base of yours, and you said you did want to know anything.

 

Well if you believe yours are really Ming , tell us why.
If you have information we don't ....well that's why we all joined this site ...to learn stuff !
Isn't that why you asked for help here ?

 

Moving away from the rim information, the deliberate colour shading in the green of your wucai pieces is something that developed during the reign of Kangxi, early Qing.
Ming porcelain always has that lovely strong appearance, bold shapes and bold colours, with no colour shading in the Wucai colours. Don't worry, I won't show pictures.

 

Sorry, I am getting back to bases, here is a site that shows the development of bases, and again sorry, through pictures. I searched for an affiliation with eBay, couldn't find it, but maybe you can.
http://www.taimantis.com/chinese/ming1.html

I did take a picture of a descripton in a reputable book (Museum Princessehof in Leeuwarden, The Netherlands), but I'd have to add a translation for you, that will take time.

 

Thanks Any Jewelry this is a very good site.

 

Thanks Houseful, I'm not sure Manny will agree, let's wait and see.

 

his loss......you're being even more helpful than required !!!

 

Thanks Komo, and everyone for your support.
There are ways of disagreeing with someone, but Manny's way got up my nostrils. It is not like I said his vases are ....., I like them, but they are likely to be later than he thinks.

 

yes, at least on this thread he has been less than friendly.....and to my mind not deserving of your efforts to back up your opinions.......

 

You're right. I think I'll stop giving this one my attention, it is no use putting more energy in this.

 

You're right. I think I'll stop giving this one my attention, it is no use putting more energy in this.

 

You're right. I think I'll stop giving this one my attention, it is no use putting more energy into this.

 

You're right. I think I'll stop giving this one my attention, it is no use putting more energy into this.