Tiffany & Co. Sterling Mystery Item - Match Box Holder?

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  1. SideshowBob

    SideshowBob New Member

    Hello, this is a circa 1880's sterling piece, just not sure of it's purpose. Opening is approx. 7/8" high x 2 7/8" across x 1 1/2" deep. Very high quality. Any help would be appreciated.

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  2. tyeldom3

    tyeldom3 Well-Known Member

    Is there a makers mark? Can we see it please. it could help with your question.
     
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  3. SideshowBob

    SideshowBob New Member

    Yes, sorry about that, meant to do it in original post. It is a Tiffany & Co piece.

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  4. SideshowBob

    SideshowBob New Member

    Note the name "EDWARD" engraved on top, possibly a desk accessory of some sort?
     
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  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I think you're spot on with matches.
     
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  6. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    I don't recall ever seeing a match box those dimensions. I have seen napkins rings in this configuration.
     
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  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    We get them that size here.
     
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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Fascinating. I've never seen a napkin holder with feet but, after a quick internet image search, see that not uncommon design during Victorian period.

    Debora
     
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  9. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

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  10. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

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  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    "Edward" is more likely to be found on a napkin holder.

    Debora
     
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  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Make that 3 for napkin holder.
     
  13. SideshowBob

    SideshowBob New Member

    Thanks everyone for the replies.
     
  14. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

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  15. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Having a hard time seeing this as a matchbox holder, one would have to slide the entire item out in order to slide the interior box out of the sleeve, seems an unlikely design.

    A napkin holder seems more likely, though a bit unusual in design - until well into the 20th century, Tiffany seldom did illustrated catalogs and ads, but finding similar items by other manufacturers can help to identify the purpose of a piece. Tiffany does do archive searches for a fee, last I heard, $1000. minimum (not worth it for something like this).

    Just as a note, by number, the pattern of this item dates to around 1873-74, though it could certainly have been produced after that dating...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Cheryl, we had matchboxes here where the long side opened, not the short? Still do, and that's what I had in mind. The matches were long ones, used for things like candles, firelighting and so forth. So, you'd simply push from the back.
     
  17. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Oh, and of course used for pipes!
     
  18. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Hi Bear - this a small item, designed in the early 1870s, if it were for a matchbox, it would hold a typical Swedish or Lucifer matchbox of the era (usually right around 2-1/2" X 1-1/2", though there were other sizes), which like most small matchboxes today, slid open from the small end of the sleeve. It's an odd piece, but I just can't see it as practical, or even really quite the right size, for a matchbox holder - not sure I can recall seeing such an object made in the 1870s-80s...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  19. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Dang Cheryl, you are older than I thought you were. You remember back that far.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    greg
     
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  20. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Do you have a Tiffany near you? It would be interesting to take it in and see if they can tell you anything based on the numbers on the bottom!
     
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