Keen Cutter Lock, Authentic or repop

Bought this lock today in a bundle deal, no key...

Yall think it's real or repop?

 

I'm not sure but this appears to be made out of iron and the originals I belive are brass, so I'm guessing Reproduction.

 

Didya check the material with a magnet?

Actually it looks correct, comparing it to the real & repros in the Heuring KK guide. His repros shown have the E.C. Simmons mark on the body, not the shackle. The repros have barrel keys (the kind with the pin in the center.) Also looks like the center has been drilled out.

 

The back hole is for centering the key as you turn it. The hole should go all the way through like this.

 

I dont have a magnet around to test it..

I think it may be right due to the slanted lettering, but I don't know.

 

I just looked through completed on feebay. All the real ones were in the lowest sold prices. The fakes sell the highest. 90% of the completed were Chinese or Indian.

 

That's odd

 

That skeleton key does not go to the padlock. It is a door lock key. The padlocks used a flat key.

The red background color is correct. Still need to know if it is brass. It sorta looks like a brass lock that was kept with a bunch of steel ones.

 

Ooops, double posted......

 

I think the lock is a fake. It doesn't compare favorably with the Real locks mentioned and pictured in this guide.

http://home.southwind.net/~drcwks/reprospg3.html

 

Seeing that I'm somewhat inclined to agree. The Heuring guide is from 2000. I've had the older fakes with barrel keys. They were also enough cruder to make a difference. I'm, guessing it's likely the fakers are getting better.

 

It looks like the original #4 to me?