Help needed with glass shades

Three glass shades that I haven't been able to find. I have no idea how old they are or if they are reproductions.

I think the first shade looks like Art Deco era if it isn't a repro. The glass is cased with some iridescence and it is thick. Can you tell if it is a reproduction or the real deal? 6" tall and the bottom is 2" but odd shaped. I would think it has be for a very specific type of fixture with that base.





I don't have a clue about this second shade. I found 2 on ebay but the seller's description only states vintage shades. This is 6" tall with a 2" opening for the attachment. The glass looks a bit like satin glass with no shine to it.





Finally this third shade. What kind of fixture or lamp would this have been attached to? I thought it was a big bowl until I saw the hole in the bottom. 13" long x 6" wide 6" tall.

 

The second one has a slightly everted top rim enabling it to be held in position with three pointed screws that do not clamp it tightly, so allowing some expansion when hot. I have a similar arrangement in one light fitting in the house that dates back to the 1920s. That one is probably from a similar period.

The third shade appears to be round, which makes your dimensions puzzling, but we had 2 and now have one bowl shaped shade, the open side facing upwards, secured by a rod which has three bulb sockets attached.

Our bowl shapes are flatter and wider but I am assuming they are the same in essence.

The first one is an unpleasant colour, who'd reproduce that?

 

funny.....i like the soft caramel pudding kinda color of the 1st one while the second spotted blue one is making my eyes bleed !!

The strange shape of the 1st one coupled by what I see as an -M - monogram, leads me to question if this was a custom job for a hotel , night club , or Thee - ater ???

 

LOL @ AF on the color and @ komokwa's bleeding eyes. Sorry.

AF the bowl is very long and thin. I think it could take two bulbs inside by the way you described your fixture. How old would you say it is?

Komokawa, good eyes, I didn't even notice the M on the Deco piece. It just blended in with the design. Now that you pointed it out, I have to research a few places in this area. Maybe I can find an old photograph that shows the lights.

Thank you both for the help.

 

Hi,
Your first one is very 1920s. I am used to seeing a half of your shade which was slid into a sconce type holder. I have never seen a full shade like yours. Saying that makes me think it might be a pendent light or part of a three shade hanging light thus making the M a W.
greg

 

The bowl one just looks like a circle in perspective in the picture, which was confusing me.

Here is an example of the clamped rim type,


And lit up



And the upward facing bowl type.

 

I'd place the clear cut glass shade in the 1960's...maybe 70's .
I base that on my parents bowls and vases from that period.
Just an off the cuff guess.

 

Mondrian wuz here...

 

Your first is definitely old deco. It would have been for a specific fixture and appears to have those indents for fitting/attaching. I don't necessarily see this as being commercial in nature and I think the M is coincidental.

I think your second shade is modern art glass. You can buy similar shades today at the big box building supply stores.

Agree with komokwa for the most part about your last shade or even a bit later. However, I would not discount the possibility that it is a bowl that has been drilled. Most shades do not have the molded in ring as seen on yours.

 

I still think the M deviates enough from the diamond and flower designs to be there on purpose.
I wouldn't mind seeing the other sides though...

 

AF, thank you for those photographs. I love the first one. Pack that up and send it on over.

Brad, that ring was definitely part of my confusion. I'm wondering if this was on top of something else. I have to go out for a while, when I get back, I will post a picture of something that will explain what I mean.

Here are some other shots of the Deco piece:



Upside down for the W

The back

 

Well, the way I see it that's an M....& the shade would have stood upright.

 

Hi,
I have to agree with Brad on the last one. I think it was bowl that was drilled and had a smaller bowl and handle and not a shade at all.
greg

 

Yes...lots of people had "tidbit" (single or multi tier) servers made out of glass bowls. !!! It always killed me to see some actually made out of good ABCG..!!! (no one should be drilling holes in those!!)

 

This is what I meant by being attached to something.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Clear-Cut-Glass-Ruffled-Fruit-Bowl-on-Brass-Pedestal-w-Marble-Base/121449655672?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=25805&meid=232ce1ebd54b42fcad7f82465405395c&pid=100011&prg=10778&rk=4&rkt=10&sd=261582502768

Here is another

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Amb...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557