A ring, but with an unknown background.

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by TheOLdGuy, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    I know very little about this, except that it appears to be made out of chunks of something, including another ring. It was just found - again - in one of my "junk drawers".

    First time I found this was about 1940 - on the street in front of my house. No one ever came along to claim it, and I wasn't interested in wearing it. As of yesterday was the very first time I chose to use a magnifying glass on it and got a surprise. On the inside, in really tiny letters I've tried to capture, is in block letters ---- "SILVER"

    What's your thoughts about it?

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    FoundRing.JPG FoundRingSterling.JPG R;iN.JPG RingFrontExtra.JPG RingInsideW.JPG RingStitch1.JPG
     
  2. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    That would be one of earliest eagle scout rings I've seen
     
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  3. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the comment, Terry. I frankly never thought of that.
    When I say "torn apart" though, it means part of the EA is missing, and the L has something after it, but both ends of that word just ain't there. The red, white and blue part is missing something.
    Inside the ring it looks as though someone hammered nails into it.
    It's also resized - or at least cut at the very bottom, and never put back together.

    Why, on the inside, are there two whatchamacallits in pics # 3 and 5. In 5 where the words, "beat up" are?
     
  4. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    EAGLE SCOUT is pretty easy to see in the pics

    The 'rivets' could be from adding a sizer inside at one time
     
  5. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    OK, hope this fits. Terry really nailed it. See 2A and 2 B on the bottom.
    Why is the red white and blue area made like that - 2 B?????

    Type 1 ‘The Knot Ring’ 1930-1940
    The Type 1 ‘Knot Ring’ was the first official ring produced. It was manufactured by the Robbins Company (although Vargas manufacturing has recently been discovered) and came in sterling silver and 14K white gold. It is characterized by the overhand knots on the sides. The design is very reminiscent of the early hat pins with the stars and texture in the oval. Overall a very pleasing design, the author’s favorite. There have been no examples found to date of the enameled colors being reversed.

    So far 6 sub-types have been recorded:

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    Type 1a
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    Type 1b
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    Type 1c
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    Type 1e
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    Type 1f

    Type 1a is very scarce. At least one author describes this ring as the first Eagle Scout ring. It is most easily identified by the rope lanyard on the sides of the ring shaped like a figure 8 tied at the center. Early Norman Rockwell paintings show the ‘ideal scout’ with this rope lanyard affixed to his web belt. I believe this lanyard is a take-off of that image. ‘BSA’ on the front. Very tough ring to come by. Photo used by permission.

    Type 1b has ‘BSA’ on the chest and a light radial linework inside the oval. The ring shown is marked ’STERLING’ on the interior band with no hallmark.

    Type 1c has ‘BSA’ on the chest and a prominent radial linework texture in the oval.

    Type 1d eliminates the ‘BSA’ on the chest but retains the radial linework texture in the oval. It was available in 14K white gold and 10K yellow gold. Photo not shown.

    Type 1e has no ‘BSA’ on the chest and a smooth texture in the oval. This particular ring is marked 14k on the interior band with the Robbins hallmark. It was also available in sterling silver.

    Type 1f has no ‘BSA’ on the chest and a beaded texture in the oval. Available in 14K white gold.
    Type 2 ‘The Art Deco Ring’ 1937-1957
    By 1937 an alternate design was offered. The Deco Ring had a blocky, angular somewhat ‘deco’ style. Both Vargas and Robbins Company's were making this style. They had the familiar red/white/blue enamel backing similar to the hat pins. These rings appeared with and without the ‘BSA’ on the eagle's chest.

    So far 2 sub-types have been recorded:

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    Type 2a
    Type 2a has ‘BSA’ on the chest. This type has been reported well into the 1940’s.
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    Type 2b
    Type 2b eliminated the ‘BSA’ on the chest. The Eagle Medals of this era would be without the ‘BSA’ until about 1970. It is assummed but not yet documented that the ‘BSA’ removal and later reintroduction was in sync with the redesigns of the Eagle Medal. This type has been documented through the 1940’s.

    For Sale: Deco Ring (Type 2b) in perfect condition. SOLD!

    Type 3 ‘The American Ring'
    The Type 3 is an entirely new design. It is first characterized by the painted background instead of enamel. The ‘American Ring’ refers to the strong eagle motif on the sides of the ring and prominence of ‘The Boy Scouts of America’ on the face.

    So far 2 sub-types have been recorded:

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    Type 3a
    Type 3a has a tiny eagle with no ‘BSA’ on the chest. The background is painted instead of enamel. The eagle’s head is clearly above the wings.
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    Type 3b
    Type 3b has a redesigned slightly larger eagle. The eagle’s head is almost at wing level but only slighty above.
     
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