Old metal plates with signal flags on them - military use?

Discussion in 'Militaria' started by Bookahtoo, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    The person I got these from was told that these were mounted on military vehicles during WWII and that they facilitated movement from one zone to another.

    I knew that the symbols are the same as maritime signal flags but wondered if there is any truth to the story?

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  2. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    They would appear to be the same as or similar to international maritime signals.

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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    2 outa 3
     
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  4. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Sounds plausible.
     
  5. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

  6. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Wonder what PJG would mean though this may mean they're Navy.
    Something Junior Grade?
     
  7. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I don't know.....I was hoping someone here could tell me. :D:D:D
     
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  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Could be just someone's initials. ;)
     
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  9. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Possibly though I suspect unlikely though there's no proof they were on a military vehicle.
     
  10. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Without anything marking them as belonging to the government, and since they are normally naval flags and not Army, I am a skeptic on the story. Doesn't mean it could not be true, I'm just reserving judgement.
     
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  11. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I agree Bakersgma.
    But they do look old. And they do look authentic. But authentic what?
     
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  12. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    These are still available so I suspect someone with rank had them painted...if they are printed...long ago.
     
  13. Chief C

    Chief C New Member

    Bookahtoo, served 21 yrs on numerous vessels and I can tell you I never saw them there, but I did see similar plaques on military ordnance bunkers overseas. I beleive that is the origin of theses plaques. Ill update thread if I can confirm.
     
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  14. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thank you so much Chief C!
    Then maybe they are from Navy Ordnance bunkers?
     
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  15. Chief C

    Chief C New Member

    Ordnance bunkers can be any service, typically fwd staging areas abroad are not ser vice dependent. Hence the requirement of having a global identification, visiting and host country bunker ID, kind of the phoenetic alphabet, you cant get it wrong.
     
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  16. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    There are (were?) catalogue places where you cold order your monogram in nautical signal flag as novelties to attach to your boat, or printed on stationary, etc. Not necessarily connected with the military.
     
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  17. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Here on Cape Cod many people have their initials on these flags either attached to their boats or cars or on their houses. It's very common with the Yacht Club group.
     
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  18. Chief C

    Chief C New Member

    Hmmm, seem logical, I assumed these were plaques from overseas. (You know what happens when you ASSume. What is the region of origin of these plates?
     
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  19. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    IMO these belonged to some American boat owner; he may have had them on his boat trailer, ivo the apparent salt-water corrosion. These are not connected to the USN, nor to ammo magazines (magazine is a more formal name for bunker as related to ammo storage.). Magazines have their own unique graphic symbols to indicate the type of contents to first-responders in case of Fire or other emergency.
     
  20. Chief C

    Chief C New Member

    OK, this horse beating has reached max capacity and we still dont know source of plates CONUS or OUTCONUS, this will help narrow things down. Develish, I realize there is a standard placarding system for ordnance bunkers (magazines are onboard ships), but trust me the FSA's (Forward Staging Areas) that I inspected overseas were not marked with conventional placarding systems. The last thing they wanted to advertise was/is what was actually being stored. Another place where I saw similar plates were on remote military facilities where there was no civinlian presence (GITMO, ADAK, Diego Garcia etc.).
     
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