Veneered frame & horrible accident

Discussion in 'Art' started by bluemoon, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    Opinions? Notice the corner construction: the frame's been veneered after assembly.

    19th century... early, mid or late?

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  2. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Nice frame. I do not think of it as Biedermeier though. Too plain and nice. The veneer mahogany and inlaid yew(?) is really nice. The square cut frame would not "open" so much as with most 45 degree cuts. I think it as Edwardian (1905-1910)
    a really nice mix between the Victorian and Art Deco ages. I have several photographs that would look stunning in that frame.
    greg
     
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  3. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    Nice. Yes, until when I was just cleaning it and scrubbing off the remains of the back paper, a 1/3 inch stick of wood penetrates its way underneath my fingernail, between the nail and flesh. I managed to pull (most if it?) out but it hurts like hell.
    They say beauty is pain but I would prefer to stay safe.. :(

    My last thoughts right before it happened: "I really shouldn't use my finger for this"
     
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  4. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    OUCH!!!!!!!!!!

    Next time listen to yourself. :oops:
     
  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    This makes me think of Hepplewhite furniture. So I would think early to mid 1800s.
    English?
    I don't see any nails, do you? Hand forged?

    Peroxide on the splinter.
     
  6. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I think there are some sort of joints etc. whatever it's called when a rectangular piece of wood is attached to a fitting gap of the same shape in the other piece. Used a lot in furniture.
     
  7. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    Yeah... Right now I'm freaking out because the last tetanus shot I had was 9 and a half or ten years ago. I'm not sure whether I could or should wait till tomorrow to get one and who knows if even that will save me :'(
    I'm scared :(
     
  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I get one on a schedule, just in case.:yuck::yuck::yuck:
     
  9. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I called and the earliest I can get a shot is on goddamn M O N D A Y
    This is a disaster and possibly worse. I read that it takes 2 WEEKS for the antibodies to form and I could be dead by then :( The disease can appear anywhere from a couple of days to several months after the injury so either way my life is doomed.
    I was having such a nice, unusually peaceful Saturday. Not anymore.
     
  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Heres the deal. You send me $1000 and I'll send your next of kin or whoever you nominate $10,000 when you die of tetanus within 6 months.

    I mean to say, you are doomed anyway, so the money is no good to you now.

    Personally I think you are in more danger of dying in a car crash on the way to the hospital than of tetanus, which is why I am happy to take the bet, sorry, write the insurance. :)

    By the way, I think the frame is Edwardian Sheraton revival style.
     
  11. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I don't think so :chicken: I'm just a student after all.

    Well, it's not your life at stake.

    I would probably react if I wasn't in shock.
     
  12. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

  13. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I haven't had a tetanus shot in 25 years and I have had some bad punctures from all kinds of dirty stuff. Cuts in the outside where excrement might exist is far more worrisome than a fingernail from an inside problem. I would take up AF's offer. i agree with his assessment on the frame.
    greg
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you'll be fine....some rum for the pain is a good idea....:happy:
     
  15. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I doubt you are in any serious danger of developing tetnus from a splinter.
    Now had you been punctured by a rose thorn where cow manure had been used, or your home was recently built in an old cow pasture, then I would say you had a very good reason to worry.

    Soak you finger in warm water, if there is any infection it will draw it to the surface. Peroxide takes away the little burning pain.

    Don't worry - You are going to live.
     
  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Rust in and of itself isn't dangerous; it's just iron and you need that anyway. :) I got a localized infection from a cat bite once but never from a nail from an old frame.
     
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  17. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I decided to lacquer the frame because it had lost some of its shine. I applied shellac on it and noticed that it had some pretty ugly scratches that had become more visible now. I stripped some of the shellac off and sanded the scratches out. I stained the sanded parts with brown furniture wax. I applied a new layer or shellac after sanding the whole thing with steel wool.
    I just couldn't get the shellac evenly applied. There were brushstrokes visible, etc. and the sanded parts had a different colour and texture. So I sanded most of the lacquer off (and accidentally some of the stain) and applied a coat of brown furniture wax.
    Now the frame is all kinds of f*cked-up and has the horrible wax coat that I hate. When the light reflects on it, there's nothing else visible except the rubbery-looking wax coat (which is also uneven).
    I just hate myself for not managing to restore anything properly. Suggestions?
     
  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Strip it all the way back and spray shellac or ...ick... polyurethane?
     
  19. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I agree with Evelyb but I use a wonderful stain made from pokeberries under the shellac. It gives the mahogany the wonderful reddish highlights. I hate the brown highlights that regular mahogany stains gives. I once had a friend ask me to refinish a mahogany stand with a missing shelf. I made a new shelf but worried about staining it to match. Decided to strip it all off save some of the stripped messy residue and rub the mess on the new shelf and wipe it off. When I redid the piece the new piece matched to a t .
    greg
     
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