Featured USA Designer Kramer Brooch help please

This isn't a brand I've come across much in the UK so hoping those across the pond can help please.
My google research tells me they were in business midWW2 to c1970 but I'm failing to find this brooch online or any Kramer jewellery that used celluloid? (Or whatever plastic it is). I've found one brooch repurposed into a necklace on Etsy (use wedding belle Kramer search terms) and their guesstimate is 1950 presumably due to the AB finish on the glass stones but what do you think? Does anyone have any other similar pieces of jewellery.
Thanks for looking

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=KRA...VO5awKHTYbAmUQ_AUoAnoECB8QBA&biw=1366&bih=657

 

Think seller reworked this into a necklace, but similar:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/489757...erest&utm_medium=PageTools&utm_campaign=Share

 

Lots of Kramer brooches but not this one or one using plastic/celluloid. Thanks for looking though

 

Yes, it's the same brooch, although possibly broken and as you say repurposed. Hopefully it's rarity will make it sought after .

 

I come across Kramer jewelry fairly frequently.
I've never taken the time to investigate it, because in my opinion, although nice the quality is not there. Usually enameled with rhinestones and plastics. The enamel is almost always worn as is with your pin.
I would date your pin to the 1960s.

 

I have to agree it's not my cup of tea either but hopefully someone will love it!.

 

I found this listing on etsy. It's been sold and I don't know if it's possible to tell the selling price.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/218512...y?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=anchored_listing

 

Good find. Thankyou. I don't think I can find out the price as Etsy seems to go all secret squirrel on sold items.

 

That phrase is new to me. I love it!

 

Is there no end to your talents INH?!.
Brilliant tool!. Sadly it only sold for $18.95. Theirs was damaged but still don't think I will make my fortune on it though

 

1960s spy cartoon.

 

It is very popular among vintage costume jewelry collectors to want to ascribe every signature to a "designer" and/or manufacturer. In c.j. both do exist but not necessarily as interpreted from a back stamp.

Kramer was a wholesale house in New York back in the day as other researchers here have determined. Its buyers selected pieces from a variety of designs submitted by design houses and individual free-lance designers, often just drawings. They had samples made in manufacturing plants.

Wholesale houses then sought out their retail customers, stores, presented them with a "sample line" intended for the coming season, be it Spring, Fall, Holiday or Cruise. The buyers at the retail stores/chains selected the pieces they deemed would sell the best in their stores. The samples that "did not sell" were not discarded but placed in "job lots" with other leftovers that the wholesale house had not "moved" that season, sold at deep discount to "fill in" end of season counter sales in the stores. The wholesalers were usually referred to as "jobbers" in the trade.

Kramer and Kramer of New York, same company, was a wholesaler. The length of the stamp depended on the room available on the back of the item. Also on the size and type stamp, or plaque, a particular manufacturing plant had available. There was no special significance attached to the length, just "Kramer" or "..of New York." One was not more valuable than another.

Faithfully submitted by me who was c.j. buyer for two major East Coast ladies specialty store chains back in the Dark Ages, i.e. the 1970s.

 

Thankyou @lizjewel, that's very interesting. As I'm in the U.K., it's a name I'm not familiar with at all so very helpful.