Searching for the name of this item in Wood, Switzerland

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  1. marialundin

    marialundin Member

    The item came from central Europé in the alps, Austria/Switzerland.
    It was use to sharp knifes for grasscutting. The people had a stone in the item filled with water. They sharp the scypthe. They carried the object in the belt. From 1800s.
    Help me with the word of the object!
     

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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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    I tried calling it a whetstone holder and found a similar item in a NY museum. It looks much older to my eye than yours I think. They call is a whetstone quiver or Wetzsteinköcher ("whetstone quiver") and a Wetzsteintasche ("whetstone pocket")

    https://www.nyhistory.org/exhibit/whetstone-holder-0

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    Reapers filled these carved wooden flasks with water, strapped them onto their belts and carried them into the fields in order to keep a whetstone moist in the event that they needed to sharpen their scythe. Though prevalent throughout northern Europe, the shape and ornamentation of this oblong cylindrical holder is characteristic of the Swiss type, which often featured carved running ornaments and rosettes or painted hearts, bull's eyes and flowers. The flask, which was alternatively called a Wetzsteinköcher ("whetstone quiver") and a Wetzsteintasche ("whetstone pocket"), featured a tapered point at the base that allowed peasants to stake the quiver upright into the ground when resting from their labors in the fields, thus preventing the water from pouring out of the opening at the top.
     
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  4. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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    I tried calling it a whetstone holder and found a similar item in a NY museum. It looks much older to my eye than yours I think. They call is a whetstone quiver or Wetzsteinköcher ("whetstone quiver") and a Wetzsteintasche ("whetstone pocket")

    https://www.nyhistory.org/exhibit/whetstone-holder-0

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    Reapers filled these carved wooden flasks with water, strapped them onto their belts and carried them into the fields in order to keep a whetstone moist in the event that they needed to sharpen their scythe. Though prevalent throughout northern Europe, the shape and ornamentation of this oblong cylindrical holder is characteristic of the Swiss type, which often featured carved running ornaments and rosettes or painted hearts, bull's eyes and flowers. The flask, which was alternatively called a Wetzsteinköcher ("whetstone quiver") and a Wetzsteintasche ("whetstone pocket"), featured a tapered point at the base that allowed peasants to stake the quiver upright into the ground when resting from their labors in the fields, thus preventing the water from pouring out of the opening at the top.
     
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  7. flipper

    flipper Striving to face adversity with tact and humor

    That is really neat. Thanks for enlightening me on the quivers.
     
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  8. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Oh, so that's the free coffin you get when you book a cruise these days ...thanks for clarifying Kyra:)
     
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  9. Fid

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    seems that NY museum simply translated one-to-one.
    many local names for these - logical, because yokels spoke dialects that weren't understood in the next valley.
    amongst others: Chumpf or Germanized Kumpf. or Schlotterfass (dangle-barrel) etc.
    but certainly not atrocities like Wetzsteintasche - complete idiocy by someone that thinks he knows German.
     
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  11. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    These look a little closer though not too much info. Goggle translates as three whetstone holders "drei wetzsteinhalter".

    https://veryimportantlot.com/en/lot/view/drei-wetzsteinhalter-37659
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    Lot 658Three Whetstone Holder
    The end of the 19th century. Century, wood carved and partly painted, metal mount, a simple natural state model as well as two farmer's painting decorated storage sleeves, age traces, H. 29 cm.
     
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  12. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    G°°gle and translations...:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  13. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    PS: I will ask them when I see them next time if they ever used one when they were still commies.
    and a further thing, Mehlis is a very good auction house BUT in Germany - and in the former GDR. so no idea about Switzerland and Swiss.
     
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  14. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    just to give you an example.
    the guy on the left speaks like me :cigar:, the girl is from Zurich.
    then compare it with Boris Becker or Steffi Graf - before she became Greek...
     
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  15. Fid

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    or with Mehlis in Sachsen.
     
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