Need help to idenify what I think is a 1700,s cabinet

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  1. Randy Mellott

    Randy Mellott keystonejarguy

    Can someone please help me identify my cabinet the about year and the name of the peg joints in the front it has rose bud nails every were

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  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Welcome!
    Please go back and make all your photos FULL IMAGE then stand by for help from others. :)
     
  3. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

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    I think it's called locking mortise and tenon.

    I'm not sure about this, but I'll just blurt it out... this type of furniture might be called Spanish Colonial - Mexican Hacienda style.

    I'll be watching this thread to see what the furniture peeps have to say. This is very cool.
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    at best that's really crude workmanship, and materials.
     
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  5. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Could also be called a pinned exposed Tenon joint.

    On face value this looks to be an antique from Mexico or Southwest US. Either way, a Spanish colonial vernacular cupboard. The wood appears to be some type of pine. My first thought was that this was not as old as speculated. However, the interior shows a lot of age. The exterior must have been refinished at some point. Whether this is 18th century or early to mid 19th century is hard to say.

    All that said, there are some things that bother me about this. This is one clunky cupboard with the size of the stock being out of proportion to the functional use. Those drawers are small in comparison to the timbers surrounding it. The way the drawers are put together is not something I have ever seen and probably would not hold up over time. I am not really seeing the kind of real wear I would expect from a 200 year old antique...... No foot wear, no drawer wear, no door wear, no wear to those exposed tenons No real wear anywhere except the interior which is beat to hell.

    This leads me to the conclusion that this is a newer cabinet made from recycled wood. Such things do come from Mexico but there are also rustic furniture pieces coming from India. Spanish colonial furniture is certainly not my area of expertise and it might be worth having someone more knowledgeable take a look. However, I am seeing some red flags that lead me to believe this is not what it appears to be on the surface.
     
  6. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Does anyone else get an African vibe?
     
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  7. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    I get an African/Middle Eastern vibe.
     
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  8. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Rough hewn!
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I get a Spanish holiday vibe.
    I saw these cabinets a lot in Spain, although most of them showed better craftsmanship.
    I am no expert but as I remember the older ones are usually more sophisticated than the later ones, so I would rule out 17th century.
    If you found this cabinet in North America, Spanish colonial style makes sense. Although I would say 'style' rather than period.
     
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  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    At a glance, I would think Mexican in the "rústico" style. Doesn't have to be terribly old. (And, frankly, if it were the workmanship would be much better.)

    Debora
     
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  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    No self respecting craftsman two hundred years ago would have made something that crudely.
     
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  12. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    There is an interesting link to Vincent van Gogh here. Van Gogh believed a picture did not have to look exactly like the thing depicted, and this was of course first articulated by the now celebrated Mexican carpenter, Cana del Monte, who belived his furniture did not have to look exactly like furniture, but just his impression of the furniture. This approach was considered somewhat slapdash at the time and he only ever sold one piece of furniture, to his dentist, who promptly covered it with a large piece of cloth and the 18th C equivalent of old magazines.
    His career came to an untimely end when he cut off one of his hands to give to his mistress, but bled out because he was unable to stop the bleeding with only one hand.

    He is remembered nowadays when people say about some piece of rubbish "That is good enough for del Monte."
     
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  13. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Jeez!
    Heavily into the Tequila that day was he????
     
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