Info on old wood chair

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by darryl, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. darryl

    darryl Well-Known Member

    I would appreciate any information about this old chair I just purchased. It is currently upholstered, but underneath are the holes where it originally had cane. Thank you for any help!!!
     

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  2. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    I hate to inform you, but this chair is not that old. The precision in the measurements of both the carvings and symmetry suggest a machined process by a carpenter with a rotary sander (how canisters are made). This chair actually was either made by a do -it- yourselfer or meant to resemble a colonial piece by a man that flaunted simplicity in his country style. But honestly I can't say its special without knowing who made it, obviously he's not inaccomplished....
     
  3. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    I'd date your chair no earlier than 60s. It is near antique but this gentleman was equipped in a home shop
     
  4. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Actually, I totally disagree with ScareBear.

    Style appears to be 1890s - early 1900s. Machined furniture was being made at this time, by men who took pride in what they did.

    Wait for brad to tell you if this style has a name.
    I don't know if it is American or possibly English. I do think that it was refinished at one time.
     
  5. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    Sorry my page performed out to an older thread.
     
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  6. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    Sorry
     
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  7. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    What are you talking about?
     
  8. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    Man my phone is demon possessedm
     
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  9. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    The style of this chair is old, but the tools that built it were owned by many. The precision rotary sander. The precise ruler to indicate distance. Its the rule of thumb with furniture and identifying how it was made. A chisel and hand carved would not be this clean. But let me give you link
     
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  10. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    This phone is possessed. I'm afraid you'll have to give me a minute to switch devices before I am of any use. The chair IS old, but he crafted on at best a small time local level
     
  11. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    Sorry. I fixed my phone.
    ..chicken fingers heh heh. There are two styles: colonial and country. But the exact symmetry suggested a very keen eye, much more keen than the other artists of the day machining. Or a better measuring system. I can't tell if that diamond on top has an etched background. Is it etched? Or just coarsely sanded? I'll keep looking for clues, but all clues drew my conclusion. Furniture itself was machined, in 1890s, but that's not colonial day. This would assert the country artist style. But now my phone is fixed so I'll keep digging.
     
  12. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    We both failed to mention the critical detail to the true origin on this chair. What was used to hold the cane in place. Hand carved wood joints, hand made metal screws, every detail with preferable proof but I've dealt with less and found more.
     
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  13. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    Honestly if you're chair is 1890s, it's baffling to say the least. Rivalling modern precision flaunting it on grandpa's grandpa's chair. But we all learn something new because I will admit: this really wasn't impossible in the 1890s. It was tough, unless you had a helper or a metal carving arm on a cranked sander. Then instead of me saying "country carpenter" you're actually "king of the carvers"
     
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  14. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    I did my reading, and I was wrong. Apparently that really is a genuine antique. The lathe required for your piece was already in the industry by 1870. You're the first to bust me, I read early 1900s before. Your chair is actually probably a boast of it's precision, probably 1870-1900. Your antique is bona fide trusted. I knew of the rendering, I knew of the rotary crank spindle, I knew of workshops with workers, but the automatic lathe was actually achieved in this time. I didn't see this chair being economically nor labor efficient until around the 30s nor surgically precise and symmetric. You learn something new every day.
     
  15. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    Believe it or not, I'm entertaining your chair is older still, that design though...well, that resembles king Louis xiii yet isn't a known mimicry. Do you suppose it's an occultist or title signet
     
  16. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    Just as I thought. Spanish.
     
  17. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

  18. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    genuine spanish. Once I learned of the machines earlier implementation not mimicking king louis. Bam
     
  19. ScareBear

    ScareBear The real ScareBear

    But that chair resembles modern gizmodry. Your chair is old, spanish style, please provide me with precise details of the original chair. All the way to leather binding. Pinpoint dating this chair is premature
     
  20. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    I'm getting dizzy reading this thread :)
     
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