Sterling Cufflinks Mark Help

Hi,
I have 2 pairs of sterling cufflinks but having trouble finding the marks.
#1 is a cloverleaf with the letter 'C' inside.
#2 I have no idea - I thought is was damage but since it is on both in same spot it must be the marker mark.
Any information appreciated.
thanks for looking.

 

here is the 2nd set.

 

Deleted - Wrong answer.

 

Both look like commercial findings,the clover mark may be the commercial seller.#2 the sterling "mark" is hand engraved.Maker's/engraver's mark looks homemade and probably not registered. They could have been made by student/hobbyist or basic bench jeweler.

A larger photo with one of each in it may tell more.

 

Thanks holly!

 

At the moment the only 4 leaf clover mark I know of is that of Howard Sterling Co. I doubt these cufflinks are by Howard because their 4 leaf clover didn't have a "C" in the middle, and these cufflinks are too recent for Howard because Howard was out if business by 1900 I think. Here are pages with pics.

Need to scroll down near the bottom of the page. 3 of their marks are pictured. Do note one of the marks has "Sterling" circled around the 4 leaf clover.
http://www.925-1000.com/ax_howardRI.html

Here is a query/info about the Howard company on the 926-1000 silver forum. The 6th pic shows their 4 leaf clover mark. Do read the reply posted by Cheryl on that thread. Her reply is the 2nd one up from the bottom. If she sees this query, she may chime in here.
http://www.smpub.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000076.html

--- Susan

 

The maker's mark on the 2nd set of cufflinks appears to be a shirt stud. Larter & Sons of NYC used a shirt stud as their trademark. again not sure if these are by Larter because your cufflinks may be too recent??? I have two 14K gold with diamond spring-loaded studs by Larter that date from 1905-1920. They were my father's. They probably came in a set of 3.
Top of 2nd column
http://jarrett.fabpage.com/jewelrytm12.htm

I have the following info about Larter & Sons in my database with the gold & diamond studs:

Larter & Son were noted for their men's accessories. "Larter & Sons was founded in 1865 and made distinctive cufflinks, dress sets and gentlemen's jewelry during the late Victorian era and first few decades of the last century." From the Larter & Son website: "The Larter & Sons corporation originated from the company Larter, Elcox & Co., which was founded in 1865. Larter, Elcox & Co. had an office location in New York City on Maiden Lane and a factory located on Parkhurst Street in Newark N.J. The business developed enormously under the management of Frederick H. Larter, who in 1905 bought out all interests in the firm and formed a partnership with his sons, then changing the company's name to Larter & Sons. In the early thirties, sales manager George A. Schuetz, Sr. bought a majority interest in the company. Under the continued leadership of George Schuetz, the company continued to grow throughout the next few decades." According to the above history, Larter didn't adopt the name Larter & Son until 1905.
http://www.nationaljeweler.com/independents/2071-us-manufacturer-lartersons-has-shut-down

--- Susan

Edit: forgot to insert zoomed in pics of the trademark.

 

Here is a silver set of Larter cufflinks on eBay with one of the pics of Larter's shirt stud trademark.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-pai...045523?hash=item3abf16cc53:g:iPsAAOSwAuNW364L

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...54&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_nkw=larter+cufflinks&rt=nc

--- Susan

 

The OP's mark is very different from the Larter mark.A good closeup and in focus photo of the OP's cuff link would probably show it.

 

They both look like pretty standard mid 20th century 'hand-engraved' cufflinks, can remember us kids giving my father a similar set with a tie bar in the early to mid '60s. The 4-leaf clover mark is not Howard, no reason for them to have a 'C' (Susan, the response on SMP was not made by me, apparently just some random 'Cheryl') - and while I see the resemblance to Larter's 'stud' mark and it was still in use mid-century, don't believe it is Larter. Used to do a good business in cufflinks, but don't find many anymore - personally not sure these warrant a lot of research, though curiosity is always a factor for me...

~Cheryl

 

Thank-you ladybranch for all the information! Wow, that is a fabulous marine life buckle in your second link

Thank-you dragonfly! I thought with them being marked I should give it a try to id them but agree they probably aren't worth more time looking

 

I also have a set with the clover! Having trouble finding info on them!