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  1. TT Antique

    TT Antique Well-Known Member

    Dear All

    I bought this print ( a lithograph) today from a flea market. It is signed "Marc" and I did a little research on the spot and I found out that it was by a Serbian-French artist by the name Nicolas Markovitch(1894-1964).He used various pseudo names. He was known for his watercolors and Lithographs. A Swiss printing house by the name Stehili Freres did many chromolithos of his watercolors.But I read that there were some half tone color prints made as well. The one I bought looks like a watercolor and has the Stehili Freres official stamp at the back as well as a a copy right symbol on the left. It really looks a genuine stone chromolithograph and I couldnt detect any dot matrix. However the fact that I saw a copy right symbol made me quite unsure though I read somewhere that some artists sometimes put the copy right symbol on some of thier original works.Can anyone shed light whether what I have is an original chromolithograph or whether it is a halftone or photomechanical lithograph? I have put several photos of the print after taking it out from its old original frame.thanks in advance!

    TTA
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  2. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    the problem with these is that the Swiss standard of printing till at least the 1930s and in some respects till the 1950s was so high compared to others that they HAD TO use a copy sign. there was only another hotspot for high quality printing till the 1930s, nearby Mulhouse in Alsace with companies like Braun.
     
  3. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Nice print. :)

    I've had many prints and postcards published by Stehli Freres, most circa 1940s or 1950s.

    Stehli Freres used a continuous-tone process that produced wonderful images without the small dots you see in offset printing. I don't know exactly what their process was, but their prints were mass-produced so they're not considered originals.

    I also don't know what term they used for their process. It's possible they called them "chromolithographs" or "chromoliths," but usually those terms are used for a late 19th century process that yields images with dots that are irregularly sized and placed. The Stehli Freres prints don't have those types of dots.
     
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  4. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Thor E Gyger was another Swiss publisher that used a high quality continuous-tone lithographic process. They published many postcards but I'm not sure if they also did prints.
     
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    Dave47 Active Member

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    Pat P Well-Known Member

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  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Pochoir can yield some fairly complex results.
     
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  8. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    The pochoirs I'm familiar with have flat blocks of color and a small amount of detail since they're printed with stencils. Are there some that are very detailed?
     
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  9. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I felt obliged to take part. But I did have this mid-century print from the firm of Daniel Jacomet that specialized in pochoir:
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    But, yeah, I think it's a reach.

    I think OP can rule out half-tone, which I believe by definition has the dot matrix. Really not up on continuous tone printing processes.

    I believe that both photogravure and heliogravure are intaglio processes.
     
  10. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    These are examples of what I think of as pochoirs. The detail comes primarily from lines, with color mostly being very flat...

    https://panteek.com/Grasset2/index.htm

    I love the effect...
     
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  11. TT Antique

    TT Antique Well-Known Member

    thanks all. Basically from your feedbacks it seems I dont have an original litho ( stone or plate litho prints ) even though it is not a half tone photomechanical litho as well. The suggestion that it could be a continous tone color lithography seems plausible as I just read somewhere that they used to produce many high quality postcards in continuous tone color lithography.To add to the confusion there seems to be a distinction between chromolithos and color lithography done by artists,,In any case I guess I probably overpaid in that case as I paid 9 Euros for it and it is mass produced print whichever way we categorize it :).But good to know about this vintage continuous tone litho types ...

    thanks !
    TTA
     
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  12. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Your print is lovely and I think worth more than you paid for it, even if less than an original print. If I were listing it on the eBay U.S. site, I'd probably ask at least $25 USD.

    I've had hundreds of high quality postcards that were produced this way and 20 or more prints. True, they're not originals, but they're far superior to photomechanical offset prints.
     
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  13. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Have seen many prints by this artist over the years. The work is of consistently good quality as is the quality of the printing, despite being mass-market. Often get misrepresented as watercolors. Have never see him identified so look forward to further researching your identification as Nicolas Markovitch.
     
  14. TT Antique

    TT Antique Well-Known Member

    Thanks verbrad

    You can check this short article regarding Nicolas Markovitch, his works and his pseudo names and the printing house that printed his works.
    https://www.meibohmfinearts.com/artists/details/1288


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  15. Shirl

    Shirl New Member

    Hi,
    I have a watercolor of this exact location. Any idea where this is? Artist is E F Stansfield. I have not been able to find any info regarding this artist. Any assistance appreciated.
     
  16. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    Hi, Shirl, and welcome!

    The one posted above says COLLEGE YARD, ETON (UK, of course) on the back:
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  17. Shirl

    Shirl New Member

    Thanks for your reply.
    It is so close to the one above, I wonder if it is a copy of that one.
    E F Stansfield doesn't appear anywhere on the net.
     
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    Shirl New Member

  19. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Welcome, @Shirl -- Your image didn't show up in your post. It would be good for you to start a new discussion thread if you want help with your picture. Do you need help in posting an image? There are several posts about this in the Support and Testing section. Here are two of them:

    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/posting-a-thread-and-uploading-pictures.15990/

    This one is about resizing photos with an iPhone:
    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/resizing-photos-on-i-phone.35097/

    You can also email images to yourself and it should offer the option of resizing to a smaller size.
     
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  20. Shirl

    Shirl New Member

    Thank you, I will start a new thread.
     
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